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re: Someone give just one example of systemic racism, just one
Posted on 6/9/20 at 1:13 pm to PKTiger
Posted on 6/9/20 at 1:13 pm to PKTiger
quote:I sometimes find myself agreeing with some of your points, but this is just brain-dead stupid.
Coaching football does not require any natural skills; anything you need can be taught.
Nick Saban is not today's most-successful coach because someone taught him to be the most-successful coach. He earned that title by having greater analytical ability than anyone else and by being a better communicator than anyone else. Those are innate traits, not unlike speed or strength.
Are they more-common among Whites than among Blacks? That is certainly subject to debate, but it is not unreasonable to argue that the answer to this question might indeed be "yes."
This post was edited on 6/9/20 at 1:20 pm
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Posted on 6/9/20 at 1:13 pm to Flats
Ivy League collages are a major underpinning of systemic racism and must be disbanded
Posted on 6/9/20 at 1:16 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
One example of systemic racism is the use of a dead man to garner political support every election time.
Posted on 6/9/20 at 1:19 pm to PKTiger
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Playing football requires natural skills that cannot be taught. Coaching football does not require any natural skills; anything you need can be taught.
Posted on 6/9/20 at 1:21 pm to PKTiger
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Coaching football does not require any natural skills; anything you need can be taught.
Posted on 6/9/20 at 1:22 pm to PKTiger
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If you’d legitimately argue that whites are better at coaching, then I’d argue that you’re racist.
They are....next question.
Posted on 6/9/20 at 1:23 pm to mindbreaker
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so to you targeting black people is not racism
If you spent your time traveling the hood, urging young black men not to fk up so much, it would do more to help the Black Community than your stupid posts.
Posted on 6/9/20 at 1:32 pm to AggieHank86
So the actual system has no racism on the books.
But if there are disparate outcomes then there must be racism and it must be corrected with reverse systemic racism.
Meanwhile root causes of most these outcomes in black communities are never addressed.
That seems to be how these discussions always go.
But if there are disparate outcomes then there must be racism and it must be corrected with reverse systemic racism.
Meanwhile root causes of most these outcomes in black communities are never addressed.
That seems to be how these discussions always go.
Posted on 6/9/20 at 1:34 pm to mindbreaker
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so to you targeting black people is not racism. What's it like in denial land homie?
Not sure if he said targeting. Stopping somebody with no probable cause would be targeting. However, if there is a legit reason, no matter how slight, they are allowed to do it. I got pulled over twice in my son’s car all because he was friends with a guy that the cops wanted out of the community. Is that an issue?
Posted on 6/9/20 at 1:34 pm to AggieHank86
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I sometimes find myself agreeing with some of your points, but this is just brain-dead stupid.
Nick Saban is not today's most-successful coach because someone taught him to be the most-successful coach. He earned that title by having greater analytical ability than anyone else and by being a better communicator than anyone else. Those are innate trait, not unlike speed or strength.
Are they more-common among Whites than among Blacks? That is certainly subject to debate, but it is not unreasonable to argue that the answer to this question might indeed be "yes."
I’m willing to admit that saying those skills aren’t innate probably was a stretch too far. But that doesn’t change the fact that white coaches have been given some advantage in the system that can’t be explained by saying that it’s a meritocracy.
To your last point, arguing that analytical skills are more common in a certain race is absolutely ludicrous.
This post was edited on 6/9/20 at 1:38 pm
Posted on 6/9/20 at 1:47 pm to PKTiger
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To your last point, arguing that analytical skills are more common in a certain race is absolutely ludicrous.
Is arguing that arguing that Physical skills tend to be more common in a certain race ludicrous?
Posted on 6/9/20 at 1:55 pm to PKTiger
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But that doesn’t change the fact that white coaches have been given some advantage in the system that can’t be explained by saying that it’s a meritocracy.
Well given the percentage of black head coaches is approximately matching the percentage of black people in the country , there’s definitely no issue with black coaches.
I would like to see breakdown of ga’s hired into college ranks over the last 30 years to see if how the qualified pool has trended over time.
Posted on 6/9/20 at 1:56 pm to oogabooga68
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Is arguing that arguing that Physical skills tend to be more common in a certain race ludicrous?
No, it’s not ludicrous. There’s science that proves that people of certain nationalities or backgrounds have genetic predispositions to physical traits.
Posted on 6/9/20 at 1:59 pm to Turbeauxdog
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Well given the percentage of black head coaches is approximately matching the percentage of black people in the country , there’s definitely no issue with black coaches.
Problem is that the general population is not the hiring pool for hiring NFL head coaches. If we said college football playing experience was a basic requirement to be a head coach, I’d bet that your proportion is off.
Edit: typo
This post was edited on 6/9/20 at 2:02 pm
Posted on 6/9/20 at 2:00 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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Someone give just one example of systemic racism, just one
Affirmative Action
Edit: I seee this has been answered.
This post was edited on 6/9/20 at 2:14 pm
Posted on 6/9/20 at 2:24 pm to FiddleHead
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How about the different punishment for basically the same drugs. Cocaine was predominantly used by whites while crack cocaine was predominantly used by African Americans.
Please read that quote, then read the disparity in jail times based on the same drug and tell me they were not targeting African Americans.
Could there possibly be more to it than just race? How much violence surrounds predominantly cocaine users vs predominantly crack users? Could the fact that the neighborhoods of predominantly cocaine users were not turning into warzones have something to do with it?
Posted on 6/9/20 at 3:15 pm to PKTiger
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Problem is that the general population is not the hiring pool for hiring NFL head coaches. If we said college football playing experience was a basic requirement to be a head coach, I’d bet that your proportion is off.
I would say some level of playing experience is a requirement for understanding the game, so yes. Also, we can discuss how that changes the expected ratios that would be indicative of equal opportunity. However, other than a baseline of experience with the game there’s virtually no crossover skills from playing most positions in football and coaching. Maybe work ethic even though we know many players get by without elite work ethic based on elite physical ability.
Commanding leadership
Elite organizational skills
Elite interpersonal skills
Meticulous attention to detail
Manic personal drive
I mean I guess guys who could run 4.4 or move mountains with their strength and have all those skills could exist, but now we’re talking nearly superhuman people.
shite they should be president not coaching football.
Posted on 6/9/20 at 3:17 pm to PKTiger
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Please explain how you feel like player hiring is racist.
I don't. But I also don't think the coaching hires are racist either.
However, if the coaching hires ARE racist, then so are the players. Neither would meet the correct demographic measure.
Posted on 6/9/20 at 3:19 pm to PKTiger
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No, it’s not ludicrous. There’s science that proves that people of certain nationalities or backgrounds have genetic predispositions to physical traits.
The fact that you think this is possible, but the same is not possible for traits that make good coaches, makes you the problem here.
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