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re: Someone give just one example of systemic racism, just one

Posted on 6/9/20 at 10:51 am to
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
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Posted on 6/9/20 at 10:51 am to
Redlining

This is probably the biggest longest lasting systemic issue we as a country have had. But there are efforts to undo this since the 1970s
This post was edited on 6/9/20 at 10:54 am
Posted by The Maj
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Posted on 6/9/20 at 10:53 am to
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I think wealthier people have more personal connections in the system, hire better attorneys, and get better outcomes in the criminal justice system. I don't know if that qualifies as systemic racism, but the system definitely benefits white people more than black people in the end even if it's more of a socioeconomic thing. Basically, when rich people frick up, their money has a funny way of getting them out of trouble.


Kinda like Jussie Smollet (sp)? How long you think it would have taken for the white person to be charged?

It is not systemic racism when money talks, it is a system of the haves and the have nots which does not know color in this country...
Posted by themunch
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Posted on 6/9/20 at 10:54 am to
Tearing down Americas History will change this.
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 6/9/20 at 10:55 am to
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Dude comes with some stupid shite, so he gets treated like someone who brings stupid shite, then complains when he gets downvoted into oblivion... He is far from mature...
Or he brings up the fact that he’s a former Marine, as if that absolves him of his stupidity.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 6/9/20 at 10:56 am to
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Do you know any white people who committed a crime like a DUI, theft, taking pills, etc. and someone in their family made a call and it went away?

That.


So what if my city has a black mayor, black DA, black police chief and most of the ADAs are black?

You think no blacks are making phone calls to people of power?
Posted by graves1
Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 6/9/20 at 10:57 am to
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which oddly enough would mean Blacks are targeted for more searches/stop and frisk than whites because in regards to marijuana use the percentage is consistent across races.

and there you have your systematic racism you were looking for


Still not systematic racism. Your blaming the police for doing his job. Not the man breaking the law.
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11832 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 10:58 am to
You can't really use this in a vacuum because you can prove discrepancies for meth and heroin charges that make it look "oppressive" to white people
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 6/9/20 at 10:58 am to
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So what if my city has a black mayor, black DA, black police chief and most of the ADAs are black?


This is the part that I really do not get... Most of these black people affected by these "racist laws" live in jurisdictions where Democrats have been in control for years and black people actually hold significant positions of influence over the system... So, why are all these black people willingly enforcing "racist laws"?
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 6/9/20 at 10:59 am to
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which oddly enough would mean Blacks are targeted for more searches/stop and frisk than whites because in regards to marijuana use the percentage is consistent across races.


You're still making a decent size leap to come to that conclusion.
Posted by BlackAdam
Member since Jan 2016
7031 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 10:59 am to
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Not necessarily. If it can be proven that certain groups get more favorable sentences from the court system that would be an example of systemic racism that is subjective in nature but still has real life consequences. I don't know if that has been proven however.


If it is subjective, amd to a judges discretion it is the opposite of systemic.
Posted by Bwmdx
Member since Dec 2018
3300 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 11:00 am to
Murder is illegal. More AA commit murder and are convicted. Therefore, murder being illegal is racist against blacks. That is some of the logic being displayed here.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
33883 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 11:00 am to
Your link mentions governmental agencies, yet only lists private business, which are not systemic.

Business goes where they can make profits. They only see green. Business are under no obligation to have locations in black neighborhoods.

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In the United States, redlining is the systematic denial of various services by federal government agencies, local governments as well as the private sector, to residents of specific neighborhoods or communities, either directly or through the selective raising of prices.[2][3] Neighborhoods with high proportion of minority residents are more likely to be redlined than other neighborhoods with similar household incomes, housing age and type, and other determinants of risk, but different racial composition.[4] While the best known examples of redlining have involved denial of financial services such as banking or insurance,[5] other services such as health care (see also Race and health) or even supermarkets[6] have been denied to residents. In the case of retail businesses like supermarkets, purposely locating stores impractically far away from targeted residents results in a redlining effect.[7] Reverse redlining occurs when a lender or insurer targets particular neighborhoods that are predominantly nonwhite, not to deny residents loans or insurance, but rather to charge them more than in a non-redlined neighborhood where there is more competition.[8][9]
Posted by BlackAdam
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 6/9/20 at 11:00 am to
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Why this definition?


Because that is the definition, dumbass.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
45557 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 11:07 am to
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How about the different punishment for basically the same drugs. Cocaine was predominantly used by whites while crack cocaine was predominantly used by African Americans.
1. 1986 ADAA was pushed by blacks in inner cities who didn't like seeing their people and communities being destroyed by the drug.

2. Crystal meth is a drug that similar to crack cocaine in terms of easy distribution and negative effect and it has historically been used predominately by white people. Both drugs are schedule II. Is this drug "racist", as well?
Posted by Music_City_Tiger
Nashville, TN
Member since Feb 2018
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Posted on 6/9/20 at 11:07 am to
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The only one I’m aware of, or was at least aware of a long time ago and may have been since abolished, is discrepancies between crack and cocaine drug charges.



"Congress’s passage of the Anti-Drug Abuse Act of 1986 created a five-year mandatory minimum sentence for possession of five grams (or just a few rocks) of crack cocaine. (21 U.S.C. § 841 (2006).) “Mandatory minimum” means just what it says: A person convicted of a first offense of possessing five grams of crack had to be sentenced to five years in federal prison. By contrast, under the 1986 Act a coke-snorting user had to be caught with 100 times that amount of powder cocaine (500 grams, or over a pound) in order to face a similar five-year mandatory minimum sentence."

Who controlled the House in 1986?
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 11:12 am to
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Why this definition?


Because if we take the REAL meanings of words as opposed to the goal-post-moving-feeeeelz versions that Leftists use, your bullzhit arguments fall apart.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
45557 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 11:14 am to
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which oddly enough would mean Blacks are targeted for more searches/stop and frisk than whites because in regards to marijuana use the percentage is consistent across races.

and there you have your systematic racism you were looking for.
Again, not necessarily. I specifically said "altercations", meaning run-ins, or reasons why the police would search a person since they need probable cause to do so.

My point is that if black men (especially) are more proportionately likely to have negative interactions with the police that result in them being searched, then it stands to reason that they will be found in possession more than others who aren't searched (due to fewer altercations). So, if you want to show institutional racism, you have to prove that there is a disparity between blacks and whites in terms of how each are treated under the same circumstances.
This post was edited on 6/9/20 at 11:15 am
Posted by bstew3006
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 6/9/20 at 12:21 pm to
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While I agree the Dems are the worst thing going for blacks and have been for decades, is this systemic racism? Maybe I'm not understanding the concept of systemic racism, but to me disparate outcomes of a policy not crafted or applied on racist terms does not equal systemic racism.


By the 1960s, American society was riddled with generations of “white guilt.” In reaction and repentance sparked by Dr. King’s nonviolent civil disobedience and the systemic introspection of social norms by whites, Americans overcompensated with sweeping entitlement programs under President Johnson’s “War on Poverty,” and by turning a blind eye to accountability on longstanding values and principled behavior within the African American community. While affirmative action and desegregation jump-started social change, the unintended consequences of shifting the cultural incentives upside down were ignored.

This caused what Democrat Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan called “defining deviancy downward.” And with Civil Rights Act of 1964 giving legal credence to making any sort of behavioral judgment toxic, the cultural glue that held together the African-American family was fundamentally changed.

This destabilization has created turbulent neighborhoods that have devastating costs to children ranging from poverty, educational deficiencies, violence, crime, drugs, and a culture of victimization and entitlement.

Basic developmental psychology tells us that boys and girls growing up without fathers and stable homes are overwhelmingly more likely to lack self-discipline and personal responsibility than children growing up with married parents. The economic, emotional, and spiritual guidance that two parent families provide are the cornerstones of effective family institutions. Without that stability, institutional collapse is eminent.

Systemic racism was created by LBJ and other Democrats to destabilize black families.

Those policies are the number one factor in destroying black families, creating victim hood and inequality..to ignore that and continue on those policies (Democrat’s platform) is systemic
This post was edited on 6/9/20 at 12:26 pm
Posted by mindbreaker
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
7822 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 12:23 pm to
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Still not systematic racism. Your blaming the police for doing his job. Not the man breaking the law.



so to you targeting black people is not racism. What's it like in denial land homie?
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
34687 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 12:24 pm to


(Sayeth the lunatic Left.)
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