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re: Some thoughts on IQ
Posted on 7/29/25 at 3:06 pm to 4cubbies
Posted on 7/29/25 at 3:06 pm to 4cubbies
quote:Those that have skills don't need to, but it is definitely easier to get it flat of your back. 99.9995% of people will take the easy path. Just look at all the people taking the fat shots.
Some women might
Harris is a friggin lazy, worthless moron.
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Posted on 7/29/25 at 3:08 pm to 4cubbies
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I can't imagine that's true for everyone, though. People that continue to use their brains in a variety of ways probably don't lose as much as they age.
For example, an avid reader probably wouldn't have as much difficult with word recall as someone who isn't exposed to a robust vocabulary.
All statistics are normed over large population sets. Thus, trying to pull an individual case from the raw data will always be hard to extrapolate. Brain and cognitive function does atrophy, but you can't account for other externalities for your own situation.
I may be out of bounds with the analogy, but a kinesiologist can correct me. Its easier to think about it in terms of other physical skills that you can observer and measure.
For instance, we can determine that diet and exercise can contribute to better cardiovascular health. Nevertheless, consider someone like Jim Fixx. He started a big fitness craze, yet still died from cardiac arrest at a young age.
As I mentioned in my other posts, if you move to scholarship, then it has a much longer persistence and output curve. Thus, if you are looking to stretch your knowledge and contribute to useful knowledge, then you have plenty of career left.
Posted on 7/29/25 at 3:09 pm to SlowFlowPro
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, where after 30-35 things start to fall off. Lost your fluid thinking and ability to be atypically creative.
That is also the age range when cognitive speed declines. When you take tests like ACT, SAT, NMSQT, etc in school they are usually timed. Some of them have very short time limits to test how fast your brain works. Your brain starts slowing down around 30. This also corresponds to professional baseball. Statistics indicate that great hitters might play MLB till age 40. But around age 30 their strikeouts per at bat starts to increase. That's because the brain cannot time a 100 mph fastball's direction as quickly as when they were 25.
This post was edited on 7/29/25 at 3:11 pm
Posted on 7/29/25 at 3:10 pm to 4cubbies
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linguistic/verbal intelligence is only one type of intelligence.
What kind of intelligence do you think Kamala might have?
Posted on 7/29/25 at 3:10 pm to BamaChemE
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Think about how dumb the average person is, then remember half of them are stupider than that!
I’ve always loved the unintended irony in that quote (average/mean vs. median).
Posted on 7/29/25 at 3:10 pm to Lee B
quote:In fairness, she passed the CA Bar on her first attempt
She has a law degree... she had to pass the Bar Exam.
ETA: Correction, she passed on her second attempt.
This post was edited on 7/29/25 at 3:31 pm
Posted on 7/29/25 at 3:10 pm to 4cubbies
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I can't imagine that's true for everyone, though
Yeah there are always exceptions and outliers.
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People that continue to use their brains in a variety of ways probably don't lose as much as they age.
As much, yes
Posted on 7/29/25 at 3:13 pm to Flats
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What kind of intelligence do you think Kamala might have?
I've never considered it and I don't find that a very interesting topic.
I'm not a fan of IQ dick measuring contests.
Posted on 7/29/25 at 3:18 pm to SloaneRanger
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Well people are pointing to the offices she has held as evidence that she must be smart. When in fact the only reason she achieved those things is by fellating Willie. Comprende?
You responded to me and I never said that.
I'm certainly not defending her. She's not a very smart person, but I don't think she is dumb either. She appears to be very average, but her social awkwardness makes her appear probably dumber than she is.
Posted on 7/29/25 at 3:20 pm to 4cubbies
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I've never considered it and I don't find that a very interesting topic. I'm not a fan of IQ dick measuring contests.
People tend to go through life mostly associating with people in their own IQ range. Kamala probably seems 'average' to you. To most on this board she seems slightly above mildly retarded.
Posted on 7/29/25 at 3:20 pm to NC_Tigah
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In fairness, she passed the CA Bar on her first attempt
Failed her first attempt and passed the 2nd time.
Posted on 7/29/25 at 3:21 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:Doubtful.
Every child assessed for Gifted does.
There are extrapolated IQs associated with some achievement tests. But those yield equivocal results.
Actual IQ tests in preschooler/early school age groups are individually administered by psychologists in 60-90min sessions.
Posted on 7/29/25 at 3:27 pm to 4cubbies
quote:Based on educated extrapolations. Variance around mean can be fairly accurately assessed. SAT testing is a good example. But once you start getting 1.25-1.5 standard deviations from the mean, accuracy in those assessments wane.
Based on what?
Posted on 7/29/25 at 3:29 pm to Tigergreg
quote:Yep. My bad.
Failed her first attempt and passed the 2nd time.
Posted on 7/29/25 at 3:30 pm to SlowFlowPro
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How many do you think have college degrees?
Too many would be my safe answer. I wonder how many are teaching the next generation. The cycle of ignorance begets the cycle of poverty.
This post was edited on 7/29/25 at 3:31 pm
Posted on 7/29/25 at 3:31 pm to Zach
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When you take tests like ACT, SAT, NMSQT, etc in school they are usually timed. Some of them have very short time limits to test how fast your brain works.
That is not a stated outcome of the SAT. Indeed, many test takers will see better results by slowing down. Timing is based on sections and not individual questions. In fact, you can request accomodations for additional time.
Timing is used for a number of reasons-- practical admnistration; fairness; having students cope with time management as a skill for undergraduate success. On most tests, timing is not about measuring the time it takes, but measuring the knowledge of the student. For instance, if given enough time, many people could figure out the chord length on a circle, by undergoing mathematical transformations they understand. The higher scoring student will know L = 2r * sin(?/2).
That is the speed element of the test. For those students pursuing higher STEM, that is necessary because you can't just use algebra and calculus on higher order problems. You would need to instinctively think in Hamiltonian or Langrangians etc.
Other tests, like the LSAT, its even more pronounced. Many of the "hard questions" are just skill based questions in symbolic logic., or comprehension questions based on the communication style of different disciplines.
Posted on 7/29/25 at 3:35 pm to NC_Tigah
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SAT testing is a good example.
That's only taking a very specific subset of Americans into consideration, though: Americans who anticipate applying to colleges and Americans that can afford to take the SAT. Seems like that would make the results skew higher.
Posted on 7/29/25 at 3:36 pm to KiwiHead
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This is PT. Don't you know that the "brain trust " on here all have IQ' s 135 and above?
SFP definitely is in the top 250 posters for IQ here
Posted on 7/29/25 at 3:39 pm to RollTide4547
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. 99.9995% of people will take the easy path
You probably vastly underestimate the number of times women are explicitly and implicitly propositioned by men in positions of authority.
Posted on 7/29/25 at 3:40 pm to Zach
quote:Not a chance in hell. Sorry, but that is just false.
When you enter 1st grade you have a folder in the school's office that already contains your IQ.
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