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Posted on 8/8/21 at 12:29 pm to darkmatter134
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I mean this isn't true, otherwise government jobs wouldn't exist.
Horrible analogy. There are 10s of thousands of useless government jobs, and needless government employees.
Posted on 8/8/21 at 12:29 pm to GoT1de
There was a time when the pound was 2.8 dollars
Posted on 8/8/21 at 12:40 pm to darkmatter134
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Only people who make a lot (i.e. US comparable) in the UK are bankers and lawyers.
Oy vey
Posted on 8/8/21 at 12:42 pm to oklahogjr
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The insurance companies are most likely the problem in our healthcare industry
No, it's the medical device companies and the medical profession in general that drive up costs.
Insurance companies are for profit, they want to pay as little as possible.
Why would they drive up costs and have to pay more?
It's just like the myth you Liberals espouse.
"We all pay for people without health insurance" big fricking lie.
It's amazing how many people fall for that lie.
My insurance company pays about 60-65% of a hospital bill. They don't pay for the uninsured.
Hospitals frick over people who have no insurance but pay their bill by making them pay for the uninsured.
Posted on 8/8/21 at 12:46 pm to TheHarahanian
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Not as many in poverty, but also not as many wealthy.
Jogs a memory with a conversation with an exchange student from Denmark who wanted to immigrate to the US.
'We have no poor people in Denmark. But we have no rich. I prefer to take my chances.'
Posted on 8/8/21 at 12:55 pm to AUstar
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What in the actual frick is this? You have specialists over there making fricking peanuts. $70k a year at the high end? The average OT baller makes more than that before he wakes up in the morning.
Dude, when socialism is implemented, you won't have people making good money in any profession.
Posted on 8/8/21 at 1:04 pm to West Palm Tiger561
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To be fair £70,000 is like 100,000 us dollars.
Is that supposed to be better? I make more than that as a CPA in the middle of my career. That's supposed to be the top end for a medical specialist?
Posted on 8/8/21 at 1:09 pm to Eurocat
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100,000 is enough for anybody to live on.
Especially in San Francisco. You can buy a nice double wide with that salary.
This post was edited on 8/8/21 at 1:12 pm
Posted on 8/8/21 at 1:12 pm to moneyg
People also are unaware about how we subsidize the rest of the world. Medicine R&D, innovation and efficiency are geared towards making profits in the US. Take away profits in the US and you take away incentive for innovation. We like to think corporations are altruistic but they aren’t.
Posted on 8/8/21 at 1:14 pm to 93and99
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No, it's the medical device companies and the medical profession in general that drive up costs.
Insurance companies are for profit, they want to pay as little as possible.
Why would they drive up costs and have to pay more?
It's just like the myth you Liberals espouse.
"We all pay for people without health insurance" big fricking lie.
It's amazing how many people fall for that lie.
My insurance company pays about 60-65% of a hospital bill. They don't pay for the uninsured.
Hospitals frick over people who have no insurance but pay their bill by making them pay for the uninsured.
You should consider that the insurance lobby wrote Obamacare. The democrats admittedly didn't know what was in there.
Posted on 8/8/21 at 1:17 pm to Bwmdx
Also, a big driver of cost in the US is malpractice. It’s not the cost of malpractice insurance. It’s the fear of being sued that leads to multiple unnecessary studies, usually expensive radiologic studies.
Posted on 8/8/21 at 2:23 pm to oklahogjr
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You should consider that the insurance lobby wrote Obamacare. The democrats admittedly didn't know what was in there.
Not the insurance companies. They serve a function.
Provide catastrophic insurance in case of an unfortunate event. There will always be that need.
There is too much demand for healthcare. You need to cut demand. Too many people under the age of 50 going to the doctor for lack of good diet and exercise. Go to your local McDonalds and sit for 5 hours. Watch people. We are a country of obese people. That is the main reason single payer will never work here. Too many fatties.
Also malpractice insurance and the threat of being sued drives up costs. Doctors here do way too many unnecessary tests because they are afraid of getting sued.
You seem focused on insurance companies. Get rid of the insurance companies and you have single payer which will be far worse for everybody. You are barking up the wrong tree IMO.
This post was edited on 8/8/21 at 2:26 pm
Posted on 8/8/21 at 2:32 pm to frogtown
Im confused by the comments that the government caps the number of doctors in the us.
Do they put a floor on competence to obtain licensing?
Or is there a cap on the number of licenses issued in a year?
Do they put a floor on competence to obtain licensing?
Or is there a cap on the number of licenses issued in a year?
Posted on 8/8/21 at 2:32 pm to Robin Masters
My man. Please show me where physician wages is 50% of healthcare dollars. The actual number is 9%.
Posted on 8/8/21 at 2:43 pm to AUstar
Ive said this for a while.
Doctors and nurses make way too much in the US.
Specialists are on par with the rest of the world.
So if any of you medical fricks vote dem. You should have your salary capped much lower.
Doctors and nurses make way too much in the US.
Specialists are on par with the rest of the world.
So if any of you medical fricks vote dem. You should have your salary capped much lower.
This post was edited on 8/8/21 at 2:44 pm
Posted on 8/8/21 at 2:48 pm to Eurocat
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100,000 is enough for anybody to live on.
Wrong.
Posted on 8/8/21 at 2:49 pm to Eurocat
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100,000 is enough for anybody to live on.
You don't get to decide how much is enough.
Posted on 8/8/21 at 2:50 pm to fjlee90
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Why is that?
Because we have the best doctors in the world.
Posted on 8/8/21 at 2:52 pm to Eurocat
Bread and water is enough to survive on.
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