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Social Security won’t be able to pay full benefits by 2034. Now there’s renewed pressure

Posted on 9/5/21 at 2:38 pm
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
19560 posts
Posted on 9/5/21 at 2:38 pm
The ironic part of this is that SS's "Trust Fund" has paid 2% interest forever while the rate of inflation has averaged 4% making its real return on investment -2%. At that rate, $1000 taken in taxes 40 years ago is repaid with dollars worth 2/5ths of their original value.

It's quite a DC Swamp racket.

In the meantime, the stock market has averaged a yearly 9% increase over the same time span.



Social Security won’t be able to pay full benefits by 2034. Now there’s renewed pressure on Congress to come up with a fix

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Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98903 posts
Posted on 9/5/21 at 2:40 pm to
Seize 401ks and put them into the SS fund.

This will be one proposed "solution"
Posted by TDFreak
Dodge Charger Aficionado
Member since Dec 2009
7373 posts
Posted on 9/5/21 at 2:43 pm to
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Social Security won’t be able to pay full benefits by 2034. Now there’s renewed pressure on Congress to come up with a fix

It’s almost as if they planned the sequence of all these problems that can only be solved with more taxes.

First: COVID stimulus, PPP, reverse REPO…we need it NOW
Second: Infrastructure…we need it NOW!
Third: Social Security…we need it NOW!

We never hear. “Well, we blew our wad on saving social security. Infrastructure will have to wait”.
Posted by TDFreak
Dodge Charger Aficionado
Member since Dec 2009
7373 posts
Posted on 9/5/21 at 2:45 pm to
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Seize 401ks and put them into the SS fund.

This will be one proposed "solution"

Well, everyone’s 401K shot to the moon throughout the past year. It’s only fair.
Posted by Lawyered
The Sip
Member since Oct 2016
29342 posts
Posted on 9/5/21 at 2:45 pm to
So let us immediately stop paying into it .

Such garbage and all those pussy politicians don’t want to reform it at all
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
95850 posts
Posted on 9/5/21 at 2:48 pm to
Same people saying we need a fix are also the ones who shitcanned W’s proposed fix nearly 20 years ago.
Posted by HonoraryCoonass
Member since Jan 2005
18076 posts
Posted on 9/5/21 at 2:50 pm to
It could happen, maybe. But this is just like the climate scare, they’ve been making this prediction literally MY ENTIRE LIFE, and it hasn’t happened yet. If need be, they’ll just borrow and print more money.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
19560 posts
Posted on 9/5/21 at 2:58 pm to
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Same people saying we need a fix are also the ones who shitcanned W’s proposed fix nearly 20 years ago.


If it had a regulated privatization option, rate of return would have been in the 9% per year and those who took the private option would be sitting on several times the funding. Of course, the DC Swamp can't give up their effectively negative interest rate payroll slush fund.

Imagine where the returns would be today had the regulated private option had taken place in 2009 and 2010 when much of the market was in the pits. There would be no problem now in that case. Of course, knowing the stupidity of too many in Congress they would probably buy high and sell low.
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
60127 posts
Posted on 9/5/21 at 3:03 pm to
Pepperidge Farms remembers when the insolvency date for SS was 2042.
Posted by Northwestern tiger
Long Island NY
Member since Oct 2005
23485 posts
Posted on 9/5/21 at 3:03 pm to
fricking clowns
2 trillion left in social security
That’s less than the 3 trillion so called infrastructure plan that they’re proposing
Posted by Keltic Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
19308 posts
Posted on 9/5/21 at 3:05 pm to
"Pressure on Congress"? Congress has its own retirement system, no pressure for the Federal bureaucrats.
Posted by GooseSix
Member since Jun 2012
19531 posts
Posted on 9/5/21 at 3:07 pm to
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Seize 401ks and put them into the SS fund.

This will be one proposed "solution"


This is how you get a 7mm to the grape.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112523 posts
Posted on 9/5/21 at 3:15 pm to
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Same people saying we need a fix are also the ones who shitcanned W’s proposed fix nearly 20 years ago.


I remember. The Dems said he wanted to kill old people.
Posted by BestBanker
Member since Nov 2011
17484 posts
Posted on 9/5/21 at 3:16 pm to

This post was edited on 9/9/21 at 8:29 pm
Posted by LuckyTiger
Someone's Alter
Member since Dec 2008
45308 posts
Posted on 9/5/21 at 3:20 pm to
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Now there’s renewed pressure on Congress to come up with a fix


lol
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
21299 posts
Posted on 9/5/21 at 3:25 pm to
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Seize 401ks and put them into the SS fund.


This might not be what they're ultimately able to do, but you can damn well bet they're going to raise the tax rates on people withdrawing from their traditional 401k/IRAs.

That's why I've started diverting some towards a Roth, but hell, I guess the promise of "pay your taxes now and we won't tax your withdrawals" is probably out the door.
Posted by Bow08tie
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2011
4224 posts
Posted on 9/5/21 at 3:34 pm to
One leg of scheme to raise taxes
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
29840 posts
Posted on 9/5/21 at 4:08 pm to
Great. About the time I’ll be eligible to get my money back. So I fricking pay in for 45 years and get squat.

frick this gay corrupt country.
Posted by 1loyalbamafan
alabama
Member since Mar 2015
2690 posts
Posted on 9/5/21 at 4:16 pm to
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If need be, they’ll just borrow and print more money.


What will you buy with 800 dollars a month? That is really worth 200 dollars a month?

Or for the Lucky that have 2mil in the bank, thats only woth 200 thousand?

Not everyone is investment savvy. Even if they have saved all their life.

....and their nice home is surrounded by new sec.8 apartments.
Posted by El Segundo Guy
SE OK
Member since Aug 2014
9617 posts
Posted on 9/5/21 at 4:27 pm to
Balkanization of the U.S. is the only answer, but I fear that might be too late.
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