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re: Social Security thinks there are 20+ million people over 100 years old.
Posted on 2/17/25 at 9:21 am to theunknownknight
Posted on 2/17/25 at 9:21 am to theunknownknight
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Total U.S. Population: 346,558,426
Total People on Social Security: 398,416,213
According to SSA.gov: only 72.9 million are on SS meaning 273.7 million aren’t receiving benefits.
Therefore, we are paying 325,516,213 non-existent people SS.
That was a list of people with active social security numbers, meaning they are alive according to the social security database.
It is not a total list of people receiving social security.
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Posted on 2/17/25 at 9:35 am to Evolved Simian
DOGE Team Uncovered Over 25 Million People Ages 100+ in Social Security Database.
If those 25M+ are still collecting social security and they’re all dead, where is that money landing? In deserted bank accounts or in politicians pockets? This needs to be audited ASAP. They sat there and acted like our SS was at risk while knowingly robbing billions
If those 25M+ are still collecting social security and they’re all dead, where is that money landing? In deserted bank accounts or in politicians pockets? This needs to be audited ASAP. They sat there and acted like our SS was at risk while knowingly robbing billions
Posted on 2/17/25 at 9:38 am to AUFANATL
Good point. After it gets "fixed" it doesn't seem like it would take many people to verify a death. Maybe, after it gets fixed to leave it up to the states and keep statistics to point out any state that is a statistical anomaly.
Posted on 2/17/25 at 9:44 am to jeffsdad
Combine this with a Treasury that always approves all payments and we have a system build to be abused.
Anyone know the last time he had an audit of the rolls do SS? Have they ever done this? Shouldn’t that being a once or twice a decade thing at a minimum?
Anyone know the last time he had an audit of the rolls do SS? Have they ever done this? Shouldn’t that being a once or twice a decade thing at a minimum?
Posted on 2/17/25 at 9:45 am to Bjorn Cyborg
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That was a list of people with active social security numbers, meaning they are alive according to the social security database.
If that is the case, this is possibly a nothing-burger.
Those records are updated by each state’s vital stats files recorded by each county. Vital Stats records can be notoriously inaccurate overtime meaning the number of people not recorded usually only grows and doesn’t shrink.
That means the indictment is also at the local level(s).
That also means the SSA almost surely has a process to stop payments after a certain age based on benefit spans outside of the DOD.
Posted on 2/17/25 at 10:03 am to theunknownknight
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If that is the case, this is possibly a nothing-burger.
Possibly.
Also, people with green cards or work visas also receive social security numbers. It says on the card "For Work Only" and those people are not eligible for benefits.
I think the main point is that it is a poor system that can be exploited for fraud, whether that fraud is large or small.
Posted on 2/17/25 at 10:08 am to Evolved Simian
Is Methuselah on that social security list? He is claimed to have lived the longest life, dying at 969 years of age.
Posted on 2/17/25 at 10:34 am to trinidadtiger
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The problem with SSI. They had actuary charts when they were set up. This nonsense about "oh well people are living longer and we didnt plan on it" is bullshite.
One, the disabled regulations (there is that ugly word again) changed to hangnails and migranes, and when they moved people off welfare they suddenly became permanently disabled.
My ex wife has been on SSDI for going on 20 years for “bipolar disorder and major depression.” Roughly $800-900 a month for 20 years.
Posted on 2/17/25 at 2:05 pm to Evolved Simian
This post was edited on 2/23/25 at 5:04 pm
Posted on 2/17/25 at 2:10 pm to Lynxrufus2012
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Is Methuselah getting a check?
Assuming the one person in the 360-369 age bracket is a youthful 360, he/she would’ve been 111 years old at the birth of our nation.
Posted on 2/17/25 at 2:10 pm to Evolved Simian
They should let us have our SS to pay off student loans or roll into a 401K/403B.
Posted on 2/17/25 at 2:51 pm to Evolved Simian
Being in the database and actively receiving a check are two completely different things... 
Lots of folks in this thread making a lot of assumptions about what this data means. It could simply be that these are people that have ever had a social security number or people who they didn't have an accurate date of birth for.
Let them cook. They'll get to the bottom of it but to call some numbers posted on twitter without context "fraud" is a little much...
Lots of folks in this thread making a lot of assumptions about what this data means. It could simply be that these are people that have ever had a social security number or people who they didn't have an accurate date of birth for. Let them cook. They'll get to the bottom of it but to call some numbers posted on twitter without context "fraud" is a little much...
Posted on 2/17/25 at 3:01 pm to Evolved Simian
Pretty easy to assume the 12+ million in the brackets beginning at 120 are 99.99% fake. That number probably goes down to 95% starting at age 100.
Posted on 2/17/25 at 3:03 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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That was a list of people with active social security numbers, meaning they are alive according to the social security database.
It is not a total list of people receiving social security.
Only working people with SS are paying SS tax
only retired eligible people should be on SS payments
we have about 51 million active SS # more than actual citizens we have in the country....with a SS number
something is really jacked
Posted on 2/17/25 at 3:04 pm to Evolved Simian
so 33% of SS payouts are fraudulent. well fix the fraud and we should be good moving forward.
Posted on 2/17/25 at 3:06 pm to JackieTreehorn
Uncovering Biden's 2020 "victory"
Posted on 2/17/25 at 4:11 pm to ApexTiger
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we have about 51 million active SS # more than actual citizens we have in the country....with a SS number
something is really jacked
There are about 20 million legal immigrants working in the United States, with green cards, work visas, etc. Those people are given social security numbers that specifically say on the card "For Work Only" and they are not eligible for social security benefits.
The other 30 million is probably a mixture of unrecorded deaths, fraud, etc.
Posted on 2/17/25 at 4:22 pm to ApexTiger
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Updated census has us at 346 million people
The census counted illegals. This was done to guarantee Dems over representation in the house. This was fought over back around 2020.
Posted on 2/17/25 at 8:42 pm to omegaman66
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People only get taken off of the rolls if their is a death certificate. If you are living overseas and die there. The SS may not have your death certificate and you are not purged from their records.
I’m sure that’s what it is.
I’m also sure we can see a sum of payments by year by ssn.
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