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re: So what was trump's health care plan
Posted on 8/5/22 at 5:02 pm to Indefatigable
Posted on 8/5/22 at 5:02 pm to Indefatigable
quote:
beyond fence-sit
At least he didn't get Biden elected.
Posted on 8/5/22 at 5:02 pm to mailman
If it was TRUMPs, it was good!
Posted on 8/5/22 at 5:05 pm to Chancellor
quote:which has increased costs 5 to 10 fold since inception as a plan PROMISED TO REDUCE HEALTHCARE COSTS
His healthcare plan was to rename Obamacare.
he was just waiting for:
costs to come down
wait so people could keep their plan and their doctor
no mystery
In hindsight it should def be shidtcanned and replaced
when Obamas weaponization of government is shitdcanned
moron
This post was edited on 8/5/22 at 5:28 pm
Posted on 8/5/22 at 5:13 pm to tarzana
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Free-market conditions don't apply when purchasing services that many wouldn't be able to afford, but everyone needs.
Ever know anybody that was self-employed or early retired and did not qualify for a govt stipend that tried to buy ObamaCare? Unaffordable...
Meanwhile if you were indigent you got it for free.
Posted on 8/5/22 at 5:25 pm to NC_Tigah
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laughable misnomer, so too is "ObamaCare".
Obamacare is aptly named.
The original name of ACA had much more in common with the "Inflation Reduction Plan" since is was actually named "Affordable (health?) Care Act" that made everything more expensive for anyone who didn't get it for free.
Posted on 8/5/22 at 5:26 pm to mailman
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So what was trump's health care plan
the free market
Posted on 8/5/22 at 5:28 pm to GetmorewithLes
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Ever know anybody that was self-employed or early retired and did not qualify for a govt stipend that tried to buy ObamaCare?
An acquaintance of mine could only get insurance through a high-risk pool in Missouri and it was “unaffordable” for her. She was super excited for Obamacare. Then decided it was still unaffordable.
Posted on 8/5/22 at 5:29 pm to mailman
hay mailman ya MUTT
answer the posts if you are going to ask this question!
answer the posts if you are going to ask this question!
Posted on 8/5/22 at 5:31 pm to ChineseBandit58
quote:Except for the fact Obama didn't write a word of it, and contributed nothing but a signature. It's SchumerPelosiCare
Obamacare is aptly named.
Posted on 8/5/22 at 5:32 pm to tarzana
your hesitation at admitting pure stalinist medcare is noted
Posted on 8/5/22 at 6:00 pm to NC_Tigah
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Except for the fact Obama didn't write a word of it
But of course - these things are never the product of the POTUS.
I was referring to the inaccurate TITLE of the thing "affordable" care act
and Inflation "reduction" act.
Posted on 8/5/22 at 6:05 pm to mailman
He didn't have much of a healthcare plan, but he was the first "politician" to force the hospital systems to provide transparent pricing. It was a HUGE step in the right direction for knowing what we're actually paying for.
Posted on 8/5/22 at 6:07 pm to tarzana
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Wrong. Medical care isn't the same as buying groceries or buying merchandise. Free-market conditions don't apply when purchasing services that many wouldn't be able to afford, but everyone needs.
Not everyone needs a car, or a dinner for two at Manresa's, but anyone needs an appendectomy when the time comes, regardless of their financial status.
WRONG
SHOW ME WHERE HEALTHCARE IS A RIGHT IN THE BILL OF RIGHTS
get fricked commie loser
Posted on 8/5/22 at 6:09 pm to JJJimmyJimJames
Anyone else notice the OP hasn’t been back since his initial post?
Posted on 8/5/22 at 6:13 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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And he's still a better man than most of you.
I can respect a lot of what he did in his life. However, he said dozens of times he wanted to repeal Obamacare. When given the chance to stick to his word he declined because he didn’t like Trump. That was not an admirable decision. He put personal pettiness above his country.
He probably was a better man than I. But this one decision was not a reason why.
Posted on 8/5/22 at 6:24 pm to BBONDS25
Meh. There were 51 votes against it, it probably wouldn't have passed the house after amendments, and it had failed multiple times previously.
McCain's reasoning was fine:
And don't forget, McCain represented the people of Arizona, and they overwhelmingly didn’t want the shite Republicans were trying to push through just because Trump said he'd sign anything.
McCain's reasoning was fine:
quote:
"From the beginning, I have believed that Obamacare should be repealed and replaced with a solution that increases competition, lowers costs, and improves care for the American people. The so-called 'skinny repeal' amendment the Senate voted on today would not accomplish those goals. While the amendment would have repealed some of Obamacare's most burdensome regulations, it offered no replacement to actually reform our health care system and deliver affordable, quality health care to our citizens. The Speaker's statement that the House would be 'willing' to go to conference does not ease my concern that this shell of a bill could be taken up and passed at any time."
And don't forget, McCain represented the people of Arizona, and they overwhelmingly didn’t want the shite Republicans were trying to push through just because Trump said he'd sign anything.
This post was edited on 8/5/22 at 7:03 pm
Posted on 8/5/22 at 7:00 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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At least he didn't get Biden elected.
Emotional women like you did
Posted on 8/5/22 at 7:03 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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Meh. There were 51 votes against it
Yep. His would have made it a tie and it would have gone to Pence. He went back on his word because OMB. That decision was a poor one. Let his emotions control him. It’s ok to criticize him for that.
Posted on 8/5/22 at 7:03 pm to beerJeep
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Emotional women like you did
Trump won Florida.
Me dropping on my knees for Trump beside you wouldn't have changed a thing.
Posted on 8/5/22 at 7:04 pm to BBONDS25
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Yep. His would have made it a tie and it would have gone to Pence. He went back on his word because OMB. That decision was a poor one. Let his emotions control him. It’s ok to criticize him for that.
Republicans could have come up with a better bill. I blame them.
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