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re: So the budget battle may fully fund USAID

Posted on 2/7/25 at 12:12 pm to
Posted by Quidam65
Q Continuum
Member since Jun 2010
20515 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 12:12 pm to
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Doesn’t the president have to sign them?


Yes. And if the President vetoes a bill, it requires 2/3 of both chambers to override the veto.
Posted by Undertow
Member since Sep 2016
9113 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 12:13 pm to
Just dissolve USAID. It is under the executive branch. They can try to fund a non-existent entity if they want.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79394 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 12:15 pm to
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Describe the transparency you are looking for. This sounds like a general complaint being pushed by MSM with no specifics.


Outline the limits of his authority and power

what does he have access to
what is he doing to protect our information
who gets to decide what documents he has access to or
not.
Make his talk to the government oversight committee.
Posted by TheBoo
South to Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
5516 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 12:16 pm to
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the trump

See this is what I mean. Y'all called biden "the turnip", but then y'all call Trump "the trump". I had every right to be confused.
Posted by bama1959
Huntsville, AL
Member since Nov 2008
5112 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 12:16 pm to
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the idea that we can trust billionaires because they’re rich is laughable.


I'm sure Elon would not turn down more money but that man is trying to save the world right now by getting our budget under control. Most people don't have any idea how close we are to bankruptcy and the misery that would follow. If the US can't fund our military the entire world would erupt in chaos. 100s of millions would die. And Elon knows that too. It's why he bought Twitter and why he's working for free on DOGE.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
115178 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 12:18 pm to
This is why Trump need to hammer the issue in his SOTU on 3/4.

My administration has laid bare the utter corruption and waste of USAID and other agencies/departments - however, under the current proposed CR, all of them will be fully funded. This is insanity.
Posted by novabill
Crossville, TN
Member since Sep 2005
10792 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 12:19 pm to
When will see some of these corrupted people arrested and removed from Congress? That will shake up the numbers I am sure.
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
36292 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 12:20 pm to
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the idea that we can trust billionaires because they’re rich is laughable.


Why are you (collective) constantly making shite up and attributing it to your "enemies"? Are you just incapable of telling the truth?
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
62912 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 12:20 pm to
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Outline the limits of his authority and power


You know this answer.

He has unfettered access (read only) to the data and systems with the purpose of conducting an audit.

He has no power to do anything else.

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what does he have access to


Everything his boss gives him access to.

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what is he doing to protect our information


This isn’t an even remotely believable concern. The security if your info is exactly what it is always been.

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who gets to decide what documents he has access to


POTUS

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Make his talk to the government oversight committee.


Congress can attempt to do this if it wants. Does congress want this? Who is demanding this if not congress? There is no other authority.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79394 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 12:22 pm to
i get so many responses that i’m lying or making stuff up and rarely does it actually say what I am lying about or making up.
Posted by supatigah
CEO of the Keith Hernandez Fan Club
Member since Mar 2004
90038 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 12:26 pm to
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Elon Musk deciding tons of public services are “waste” slashing their funding leading to disfunctiin and enrichment of the corporations and himself when they start to provide the private “solution” to the problem.

you mean like a capitalist economy is supposed to work? You think Trump is going to give an exclusive to Elon Musk?

We dont have a say when the Government funds things but we do have a say over where we spend our money. Dont like it, dont buy it


quote:

the kind of thinking that points out that the USPS loses money and UPS makes money, and doesn’t consider that sending letters at an affordable rate is not a profit maker.


the USPS loses money because of their Pension Fund obligations, not the services revenue

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I dont really care about USAID spending but does he have this level of power with the department of transportation? Does that not concern you when he makes his money selling cars and building or not building huperloops?


you are seriously grasping at straws here.

how does showing the public where their tax dollars go have anything to do with what Musk and his companies do in the public sector? If there is any quid pro quo for Musk dont you think the MSM will screech like barn owls?

Posted by keks tadpole
Yellow Leaf Creek
Member since Feb 2017
8677 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 12:28 pm to
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the kind of thinking that points out that the USPS loses money and UPS makes money, and doesn’t consider that sending letters at an affordable rate is not a profit maker.

I’ll agree.IIRC, a postal service is one of the services that the federal government provides and why should it be required to be profitable, when so many agencies are not.
However, I see no problem with adjusting postage prices for bulk mail and other junk that fill our mail boxes. IMO- invoice, bills, legal documents, personal correspondence should be affordable; other mail outs not so much, cut losses by reducing volume
Posted by Houag80
Member since Jul 2019
19380 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 12:31 pm to
A lot of words simply to prove your moronic TDS mindset.
Posted by supatigah
CEO of the Keith Hernandez Fan Club
Member since Mar 2004
90038 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 12:31 pm to
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what does he have access to

expenditures

quote:

what is he doing to protect our information

the contractors for DOGE are programmers that are working with Treasury employees to write code for expenditure reports

this is nothing new, what is new is the public disclosures of what they are finding

quote:

who gets to decide what documents he has access to or
not.


they are looking at the expenditures list, and auditing the payments to LLCs, NGOs, Corporations, Charities, Governments

they arent looking at the IRS and the tax rolls

quote:

Make his talk to the government oversight committee.


you need to watch the Scott Bessent interview, he answers all of your DNC talking points
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79394 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 12:32 pm to
1. Thanks for a very general statement that doesn’t really provide any transparency to methods or what Trump minor isn’t allowing him to look at.

2. My concern for security of this information is the same, but before the president wasn’t actively letting a random citizen look at everything with Big Balls.

3. Do you think there should be government oversight? Because the Government Oversight Committee just tables a request to have Elon Musk come talk to them about what he’s doing.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79394 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 12:33 pm to
this is a different answer than the last guy.

Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
62912 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 12:44 pm to
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1. Thanks for a very general statement that doesn’t really provide any transparency to methods or what Trump minor isn’t allowing him to look at.


And you’ve moved the goalposts into methods.

You don’t get to view the methods. Generally, you know he’s doing highly sophisticated work, almost assuredly AI based in part, to conduct an audit at a pace this world has never seen.

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2. My concern for security of this information is the same, but before the president wasn’t actively letting a random citizen look at everything with Big Balls.


The president isn’t allowing any random citizen look at the data. These people are background checked and have agreed to confidentiality in the exact same way all employees and contractors with access would.

Again, this is obviously a faux concern. Your decision to double down on this dishonesty is noted.

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3. Do you think there should be government oversight? Because the Government Oversight Committee just tables a request to have Elon Musk come talk to them about what he’s doing.


#1, you are requesting oversight of a program of government oversight.

#2, if all you have is your personal opinion that you want him in front of congress…when congress itself hasn’t said it wants him in front of congress, you have no valid complaint.



Posted by supatigah
CEO of the Keith Hernandez Fan Club
Member since Mar 2004
90038 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 12:45 pm to
they wrote code for an NGO discovery and found 55,000+ NGOs in the Treasury data base

then they wrote code to follow Treasury expenditures through the 55,000 NGOs

then they wrote code to create Fractal Maps to illustrate the pathways of the money through the NGO fields

then they released the info from the Fractal Maps

this used to be done with LLCs, the CIA gets money from State and then money is Laundered through LLCs all over the world until it reaches its destination

with BHO and Biden the USAID organization abuse and corruption got too wide and expanded to the point that it has burst

the code these guys are writing is not the story, releasing to the public what they find is the story. This is the greatest money laundering scandal of all time

just wait until they get to audit Defense and Medical expenditures

Medicare fraud alone will laugh at the USAID findings
Posted by timdonaghyswhistle
Member since Jul 2018
20998 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 12:49 pm to
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I dont really care about USAID spending


^Not a taxpayer.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79394 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 12:55 pm to
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And you’ve moved the goalposts into methods.


no dipshit

that’s what’s transparency means

you can say “oh i’m just going over the numbers”

transparency is being look look at how I am only allowed to go over the numbers and the various protections we have in place to make sure senstafice matters of national security can’t be looked at by a SpaceX intern.
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