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re: So how much more are we supposed to shut up and ignore?
Posted on 3/12/24 at 9:24 am to Toomer Deplorable
Posted on 3/12/24 at 9:24 am to Toomer Deplorable
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So as it stands, some degree of populist pushback is the very best outcome we can hope for.
Why?
Let's say your paranoid Tinfoil Hat nonsense is true. Let's say you're Fox Mulder and the truth really is out there.
1. What do you suppose you're going to be able to do about it? That's the problem with the conspiracy nonsense: to the exact degree that some small cabal of people have the power to control the planet, that's the exact degree that you're going to have to overcome to change anything. In other words, if they are powerful enough to control world affairs, what the frick do you think you're going to be able to do to overcome that? Make stern posts on TigerDroppings?
2. So the Reptilian Deep State has been in charge, eh? Well, they've been doing a pretty good job. We have the highest quality of life in history. The least racism. The highest degree of civil rights and freedom. The lowest real (lived) wealth inequality of the country's history...all but the very poorest people today live better than rich people did 200 years ago. No one fights in a war without signing up to do so...there is no compulsory service.
Yeah, I know. Joe Biden is importing illegals to subdue Americans and put them in concentration camps. Chemtrails are intentionally giving people cancer...probably working in concert with the COVID vaccine. And the dollar will fail and the world economy will collapse and society will crumble. Dogs and cats living together...mass hysteria.
Of course, populists on the "right" have been predicting that sort of nonsense for almost as long as the populists on the left have been predicting famines and floods and droughts and people spontaneously combusting due to Climate Change, and neither has happened.
But it's coming!
OR
Maybe there's no conspiracy. Maybe there's just the government corruption that has always existed in any situation in which human beings have made decisions for the group, whether we're talking about Junior High Student Council or a church committee or a parliament. Starting when the first cavemen decided to elect a hunting party and existing as an inevitable part of human nature.
In that case, policy actually matters.
In that case, we can't eliminate the corruption, but we can control it and minimize the damage it does.
In that case, there is a point and a real reason to be involved politically.
If the reality is the first scenario, however, I don't see the point. Just frick it and go binge watch some shite on Netflix until the power goes out. You can't change anything.
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Posted on 3/12/24 at 9:28 am to jimmy the leg
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The same one that repeatedly stabbed Trump in the back? The GOPe?
Let me tell MAGA a little secret. Most of the world sees the reverse.
MAGA is not willing to work with anyone that doesnt pledge undying loyalty.
The GOPe is a figment of yalls imagination.
Posted on 3/12/24 at 9:39 am to RogerTheShrubber
The call is coming from inside the house
"Yay Trump helped push out McCarthy even though McCarthy was Trump's handpicked guy"
"Yay Trump is cleaning house now that Trump's own Ronna McDaniel and her crew of GOPe staffers that Trump saved from the guillotine for over a year are out!"
"Yay Trump helped push out McCarthy even though McCarthy was Trump's handpicked guy"
"Yay Trump is cleaning house now that Trump's own Ronna McDaniel and her crew of GOPe staffers that Trump saved from the guillotine for over a year are out!"
Posted on 3/12/24 at 9:42 am to Pettifogger
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The call is coming from inside the house
"Yay Trump helped push out McCarthy even though McCarthy was Trump's handpicked guy"
"Yay Trump is cleaning house now that Trump's own Ronna McDaniel and her crew of GOPe staffers that Trump saved from the guillotine for over a year are out!"
Whomever Trump hires becomes the scapegoat. He is burning through and chewing up personell faster than they can create them.
Whoever he hires will find their career dead in the water. He pushes bad people, turns on them and somehow becomes the good guy.
Posted on 3/14/24 at 10:09 pm to Flats
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maybe you should stop lumping all Trump supporters in the same category as well.
Also you: quote:Us Trump supporters are not beholden to him at all.
Can you be spoken of as a group or not? Maybe you can do it but he can't?
Well I’d say the difference is one is accurate and one isn’t. That does matter.
Posted on 3/14/24 at 10:18 pm to momentoftruth87
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Vote for Biden then.
This idea is retarded.
I think all anyone wants is for you guys to stop being so delusional. You're not a special group fighting the "establishment". Your leader is as establishment as it gets. Support him if you'd like but spare everyone the idea that "we're taking back our party" bullshite.
Posted on 3/14/24 at 11:10 pm to JoeHackett
This shite is bs.
Maybe just don’t lie.
You guys constantly say complete bullshite centered around covid.
The hate is focused at the wrong people
We are saying stop with the bullshite. But yet you continue. You are no better.
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Trump Wants U.S. ‘Opened Up’ by Easter, Despite Health Officials’ Warnings “You can’t just come in and say let’s close up the United States of America,” the president said, insisting again that he did not view the coronavirus as any more dangerous than the flu.
Maybe just don’t lie.
You guys constantly say complete bullshite centered around covid.
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WE CANNOT LET THE CURE BE WORSE THAN THE PROBLEM ITSELF.”
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We’ve never closed down the country for the flu,” Trump said. “So you say to yourself, what is this all about?”
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The faster we go back, the better it’s going to be.”
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As Trump focuses on reopening, a leaked CDC and FEMA report warns of “significant risk of resurgence of the virus” with phased reopening.
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You see states are starting to open up now, and it’s very exciting to see.”
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Well run States should not be bailing out poorly run States, using Coronavirus as the excuse!”
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“In Germany, Denmark, Norway, Sweden, and many other countries, SCHOOLS ARE OPEN WITH NO PROBLEMS. The Dems think it would be bad for them politically if U.S. schools open before the November election, but it is important for the children & families.
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“I disagree with @CDCgov on their very tough & expensive guidelines for opening schools. While they want them open, they are asking school to do very impractical things.
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If you look at children, children are almost - and I would almost say definitely - but almost immune from this disease.”
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"It affects elderly people, elderly people with heart problems, if they have other problems, that's what it really affects, that's it. In some states thousands of people — nobody young — below the age of 18, like nobody — they have a strong immune system — who knows? Take your hat off to the young, because they have a hell of an immune system. But it affects virtually nobody. It’s an amazing thing.By the way, open your schools everybody, open your schools.
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You are not going to die from this pill...I really think it's a great thing to try."[Trump promoting Hydroxychloroquine, not FDA approved to treat coronavirus]
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Many doctors and studies disagree with this!” (Donald Trump in a quote tweet of a Twitter moment stating that the FDA is revoking hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine for COVID-19 treatment
The hate is focused at the wrong people
We are saying stop with the bullshite. But yet you continue. You are no better.
This post was edited on 3/14/24 at 11:26 pm
Posted on 3/14/24 at 11:17 pm to JoeHackett
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Your leader
And there is the problem. He's your leader too, unless, you know, you're not a part of the Republican party. See, the problem is actually you and your way of thinking. Why can't you be like the democrats you fawn over who, though they detest Biden as much as we do, still fall in line behind their leader? So what's wrong with you?
Posted on 3/14/24 at 11:24 pm to Richleau
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See, the problem is actually you and your way of thinking. Why can't you be like the democrats you fawn over who, though they detest Biden as much as we do, still fall in line behind their leader? So what's wrong with you?
In other words; Be a clapping seal
Posted on 3/14/24 at 11:49 pm to BuckyCheese
The fella was just touting the democrats' ability to get behind their leader even if they hate him and this guy won't even admit Trump is the party leader. It's hilarious and sad.
Posted on 3/15/24 at 12:27 am to Vacherie Saint
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Blaming Trump for this makes me think you are still in your 20’s
You’re not understanding. It’s not Trump being blamed. It’s soft AF pretend conservatives like you that are being blamed.
This isn’t about who to vote for in November. Most critics of Trump on the Right don’t need to be prodded to vote against pedo-Joe. But somewhere along the line you pussies need to start understanding how the Left has assumed control of the country. It’s because of you.
Read your own posts. I can’t imagine better “opposition” for the whackjob Leftists you think Trump is going to save you from.
This post was edited on 3/15/24 at 12:32 am
Posted on 3/15/24 at 2:00 am to David_DJS
They're far too dense to understand this.
The idea that they enable his moronic moves is unfathomable to them.
The idea that they enable his moronic moves is unfathomable to them.
Posted on 3/15/24 at 11:28 am to BuckyCheese
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The idea that they enable his moronic moves is unfathomable to them.
Gumbo is a poster child in my view. Where SDV and moment are simply retarded, Gumbo is smart and well-anchored, but he's asking a question ("now what?") that should have an obvious answer. Trump needs to feel pressure to actually get shite done, and from the perspective of the far Right, as it's considered now (endorse actual conservatives, shut down the border in a real way, actually reduce the footprint of fedgov, cut Ukraine off for real, drain the swamp - at least a little).
Trump made the joke about shooting someone on 5th Avenue, but a) it's f'n true, and b) it underlies how Trump leads/presides. It allows him to be more worried about what CNN is saying than what is best for his constituents.
Posted on 3/15/24 at 11:30 am to BuckyCheese
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The idea that they enable his moronic moves is unfathomable to them.
Your options this election are Trump or Biden. The idea that shitting all over Trump non stop enables Biden is unfathomable to you.
This post was edited on 3/15/24 at 11:31 am
Posted on 3/15/24 at 11:34 am to David_DJS
I'll try another thread. The last one just got jeers, name calling and insults.
We keep hearing scorched earth and drain the swamp. Disband this and that. Mass firings etc.
I'd love to hear what exactly will be done and how and when.
I'd love to hear
We keep hearing scorched earth and drain the swamp. Disband this and that. Mass firings etc.
I'd love to hear what exactly will be done and how and when.
I'd love to hear
Posted on 3/15/24 at 11:39 am to BBONDS25
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The idea that shitting all over Trump non stop enables Biden is unfathomable to you.
The idea that your/fandom's inability to stomach criticism of Trump enables him to move the Republican party dramatically to the Left is unfathomable to you.
Posted on 3/15/24 at 11:46 am to roadGator
You want somebody here to give you detailed specifics as to what Trump’s strategies to do all of the things you mentioned? C’mon man, you’re being disingenuous simply for the sake of being snarky. How about since you brought it up, you flesh out all those things for the candidate who you propose would be better than Trump at those things.
Posted on 3/15/24 at 11:50 am to davyjones
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You want somebody here to give you detailed specifics as to what Trump’s strategies to do all of the things you mentioned?
I don't, because I know he has no plan for it. He said all the same stuff in 2016 and accomplished none of it, and based on his campaign, it doesn't look like he's learned anything in 8 years.
Posted on 3/15/24 at 11:54 am to roadGator
I see Dave, Cheese, road, and Roger are still in this echo chamber blaming everything on MAGA. Congrats on spending a week in this thread patting each other on the backs for accomplishing absolutely nothing. Still voting for Trump. Maybe in a few more weeks you will have convinced some of MAGA to vote for Biden. I doubt it but its worth a go, right gang.
This post was edited on 3/15/24 at 11:56 am
Posted on 3/15/24 at 11:59 am to YouKnowImRight
Gotcha. So you won’t be voting for the Republican candidate I take it?
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