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re: So Gaetz is blaming McCarthy for working with democrats...
Posted on 10/3/23 at 8:32 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 10/3/23 at 8:32 am to SlowFlowPro
Maybe Gaetz wants to be governor of Florida?
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Posted on 10/3/23 at 8:33 am to bigblake
Posted on 10/3/23 at 8:34 am to VOR
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Maybe Gaetz wants to be governor of Florida?
He will be running for governor of Florida in 2026.
Posted on 10/3/23 at 8:34 am to GumboPot
Which of Gaetz's appropriations bills have passed the full house? I'm googling and I don't see any.
Posted on 10/3/23 at 8:35 am to SlowFlowPro
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He could just vote No and avoid giving the DEMs more in the process.
This is the strongest thing you’ve said in this thread.
If you believe Gaetz, though, it’s a number of things such as tying Ukraine funding to border funding, bringing bills with little to no time for review and debate, etc, that pushed him to move for McCarthy’s ouster or weakening him to eventually ouster.
I don’t have a problem with it because I don’t believe in this Republican congressional leadership nor do I believe they have the political skill to accomplish any real substantive measures.
Posted on 10/3/23 at 8:35 am to OceanMan
The reason the dems won’t oust McCarthy is because the gop will not be able to elect a new speaker before the current continuing resolution expires.
Posted on 10/3/23 at 8:36 am to SlowFlowPro
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Where are the full votes on these?
You can search here: LINK
I don't have time to do the work for you.
Posted on 10/3/23 at 8:37 am to LuckyTiger
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If you believe Gaetz, though,
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I don’t have a problem with it because I don’t believe in this Republican congressional leadership nor do I believe they have the political skill to accomplish any real substantive measures.
Gaetz's political skill has been giving the DEMs Ws. That's the problem. That's as unskilled as it gets, unless his real policy is self-promotion (which I'm 99.5% sure it is).
Posted on 10/3/23 at 8:37 am to GumboPot
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I don't have time to do the work for you.
You make a claim.
You're asked for evidence of this claim.
You respond like a conspiracy theorist would.
Posted on 10/3/23 at 8:42 am to SlowFlowPro
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You make a claim.
You're asked for evidence of this claim.
You respond like a conspiracy theorist would.
I'm repeating what I've heard congressmen say on video. I don't have the time to follow that minute by minute congressional machinations. But yeah get hung up on this point so you can defend your coveted CR at the same time saying this "this is not the CR I wanted because of that bad guy Gaetz made McCarthy negotiate with the Democrats".
This post was edited on 10/3/23 at 8:43 am
Posted on 10/3/23 at 8:42 am to Taketts
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What? If he's expecting dems to bail out McCarthy, is this all performative?
If you've taken even a second to listen to him, you'd understand that his objective is to show the people who McCarthy (and the rest of the GOPe) work for.
In other words, he's saying that everything McCarthy is doing (opposition to Dems) is performative.
You really should take the time to go listen to any of the 50 interviews Gaetz has done.
Posted on 10/3/23 at 8:44 am to SlowFlowPro
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KM is a politician through and through, that's how he can get both the GOPE and Trump/MTG to support him as SOH.
nah
McCarthy is viewed as a weak person. The MTG / Trump support was in facing the inevitability that McCarthy was going to win and in hopes that he could be controlled. They got him to make significant promises. McCarthy just lied about those promises. Now comes the fallout.
Posted on 10/3/23 at 8:46 am to SlowFlowPro
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Leftist shite.
Yes you are
Posted on 10/3/23 at 8:47 am to GumboPot
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"this is not the CR I wanted because of that bad guy Gaetz made McCarthy negotiate with the Democrats".
It's not the one I want.
Do you prefer a CR with more concessions to DEMs or less concessions to DEMs?
Fairy tales are not an option.
Posted on 10/3/23 at 8:47 am to Dday63
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When did compromise become a bad thing?
When you are compromising with marxist/communists who want to destroy you, your country, capitalism, the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, etc.
Posted on 10/3/23 at 8:49 am to moneyg
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The MTG / Trump support was in facing the inevitability that McCarthy was going to win a
Trump supported him long before that.
Trump's support was a major factor IN McCarthy being such a heavy favorite to win. Only a few were willing to risk pissing off Trump and the non-MAGA Republicans (who still dominate the house).
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They got him to make significant promises. McCarthy just lied about those promises.
Because he was negotiating with a person in a very weak position in Gaetz.
Now Gaetz is going to (1) give the DEMs a win in the budgetary process; (2) marginalize the movement to decrease spending; and (3) lose his motion to vacate, exposing him as only having the power to emobolden DEMs.
Posted on 10/3/23 at 8:49 am to troyt37
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When you are compromising with marxist/communists who want to destroy you, your country, capitalism, the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, etc.
So engaging in a strategy to give them more concessions is a good strategy?
Posted on 10/3/23 at 8:50 am to Bourre
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Yes you are
By criticizing Leftist-inspired virtue signaling by Gaetz, I am the one supporting Leftism?
Explain that to me.
Posted on 10/3/23 at 8:50 am to GumboPot
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He will be running for governor of Florida in 2026.
Trumpkins are going to struggle with that. I think he only worked a year (as a lawyer) before riding Dad's name into politics. You trust a career politician?
Posted on 10/3/23 at 8:52 am to Dday63
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When did compromise become a bad thing?
2008
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