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re: So do you think Trumps tariffs will succeed in bringing back manufacturing to USA?
Posted on 4/4/25 at 3:31 pm to VOR
Posted on 4/4/25 at 3:31 pm to VOR
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You’re right. Our economy has literally been the strongest in the world. It makes no sense to screw around with it.
Trump has been obsessed with tariffs since the 90’s but has learned nothing from history. Does he really want to be another Herbert Hoover
"It has literally been".... bingo! This isn't immediate post WWII. This country is on the verge of bankruptcy dumbfrick.
We the people vited for a change. The change that Trump clearly communicated, in detail, he would enact. Trump is simply doing the will of the people.
IF DON'T LIKE IT, TRY HARDER IN 2028! LOSER
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Posted on 4/4/25 at 3:32 pm to RogerTheShrubber
I really wish this site had an ignore function. Rubber dog shite Shrub stinks up every thread he's in while adding zero to any conversation that he hasn't said, in the same words, a thousand times in the past week.
*A thousand posts is not an exaggeration.
*A thousand posts is not an exaggeration.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 3:32 pm to Cycledude
It will succeed in reducing manufacturing in China with firms further moving supply chains away from China.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 3:33 pm to VOR
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Our economy has literally been the strongest in the world. It makes no sense to screw around with it.
We were last man standing after WW2. Gave us a slight advantage. All we had to do was not bomb 90% of our infrastructure and we’d emerge in the catbird seat.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 3:34 pm to BuckyCheese
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I really wish this site had an ignore function. Rubber dog shite Shrub stinks up every thread he's in while adding zero to any conversation that he hasn't said, in the same words, a thousand times in the past week.
If you had a better capcity to learn, I wouldnt have to.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 3:34 pm to VOR
quote:It may have been, but for how long with our national debt over 30 trillion. Part of the problem is that our government is no longer collecting taxes from all the factories and it’s employees that used to be here.
You’re right. Our economy has literally been the strongest in the world. It makes no sense to screw around with it.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 3:39 pm to Cycledude
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It may have been, but for how long with our national debt over 30 trillion. Part of the problem is that our government is no longer collecting taxes from all the factories and it’s employees that used to be here.
You don't believe these tariffs will pay that off do you?
Posted on 4/4/25 at 3:41 pm to Cycledude
I think this will be what kills all the Republican wins.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 3:44 pm to Cycledude
IMO, if you’re China or Europe, your goal will be to reduce trade with the U.S. due to our political volatility.
This has been repeated globally: reduce interdependence with the U.S.
This has been repeated globally: reduce interdependence with the U.S.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 3:48 pm to Cycledude
Yes, I expect more domestic manufacturing but it isn't about the number of factories to me or even a particular number of jobs. It's what the factories are making that matters and if it takes automation to make it happen then so be it.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 3:49 pm to Pandy Fackler
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who wanted unskilled labor jobs brought back to the United States?
Manufacturing jobs are unskilled?
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Because make no mistake about it, that's primarily what these jobs are, and from a non-union market standpoint, they're worth about 17 or 18 dollars an hour.
lol ok, what a ridiculously broad statement this is.
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For about the last 30 years or so, our economy has generally remained in the "good to outstanding" range. Why frick with it like this?
Because we have a mountain of debt that could only be wiped out with a currency devaluation and most likely, world war. The economy has been propped up by government spending that is leveraged.
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Who in the US wants these unskilled, low paying manufacturing jobs anyway? Rhetorical question. All these millions of Mexicans who aren't being deported will want them.
Who wants the contract to build the plant? Who wants that plant in their state?
Posted on 4/4/25 at 3:51 pm to Cycledude
Perhaps a few but mostly not especially with some of these countries paying such low wages compared to American worker salaries.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 4:08 pm to riserlock
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Yall are so dumb, countries don’t “have tariffs against us”
Where is this stupid arse narrative coming from. It’s like some of yall have never heard the words “duties” or “trade agreements” before.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 4:18 pm to Cycledude
In a massive significant way but it’s not going to happen tomorrow like everybody is screaming for the Epstein files tomorrow
Posted on 4/4/25 at 4:37 pm to Cycledude
We gotta at least try.
Doing nothing is not an option.
Doing nothing is not an option.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 4:40 pm to Cycledude
It will either succeed with other countries lowering tariffs, or if that doesn't happen, then it will bring manufacturing back. That's why the liberals are skyscreaming. They realize that if this works, it will promote the Republican party and Trump massively. They MUST stop it now, or else all is lost. So that is why the tremendous fighting against tariffs.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 4:48 pm to Pandy Fackler
There is more than unskilled labor companies that disappeared. The safety net for medical needs back home. You can argue that cheap useless goods can keep away but washers, dryers, refrigerators, hvac, heavy machinery, furniture and about everything in the industrial, commercial or residential needs back as the country cities have been hollowed out. Instead we’ve been a nation of Whse storages for foreign made products
Posted on 4/4/25 at 4:55 pm to Bunk Moreland
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If it's crappy, low-paying jobs, do we even want that work back here?
Most of these jobs would be high level and high tech manufacturing
Sweat shops aren't coming back
Posted on 4/4/25 at 4:58 pm to Cycledude
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So do you think Trumps tariffs will succeed in bringing back manufacturing to USA?
Somewhat
But to truly make America great again regulations need be slashed and anti trust laws need to be enforced
Monopolization and regulatory capture need to ended in lots of industries
Posted on 4/4/25 at 5:10 pm to Pandy Fackler
Because that market crushed people who make under $100k/year. The super majority of Americans don’t make $100k + per year
Also, you claim $18/hour. When this economy is humming, that $18/hr will shoot up to $30/hour jobs
How? When then is so much work going on like it was happening during Trump’s first term, companies were begging for help and how did they get their employees? They out bid their competitors with highest salaries
Also, you claim $18/hour. When this economy is humming, that $18/hr will shoot up to $30/hour jobs
How? When then is so much work going on like it was happening during Trump’s first term, companies were begging for help and how did they get their employees? They out bid their competitors with highest salaries
This post was edited on 4/4/25 at 5:12 pm
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