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re: So all I need to do to afford a $750,000 house
Posted on 3/18/25 at 8:21 am to goldennugget
Posted on 3/18/25 at 8:21 am to goldennugget
Start by voting for people who want to dismantle the Federal Reserve and put an end to the perpetual devaluation of our currency.
I don’t know how young you are, but at 45, I feel like I just made the cut. I completely understand where younger people are coming from on this. They’re being asked to work and pay into Social Security to support an older generation that was able to afford homes more easily—and likely has significantly higher net worth—while knowing they may never see those benefits themselves. It’s a racket, no doubt.
That said, cutting unnecessary expenses like subscriptions or overpriced coffee won’t fix the system—but it doesn’t hurt either. Every little bit helps, especially when the game feels rigged.
For what it’s worth, my wife and I make good money, but we live well below our means. I pay cash for cars—never new, rarely even nice. We don’t use credit cards and carry no debt outside of our mortgage, which we’re on track to pay off early thanks to a sub-2% rate and consistently paying double toward the principal.
Unfortunately, for younger people and those who don’t already own a home, that kind of interest rate may never come around again. Ironically, if rates hadn’t been kept artificially low from 2008 to around 2024, we might not be in this situation. The prolonged suppression of rates devalued the dollar and eroded purchasing power—leaving today’s generation to deal with the fallout.
I don’t know how young you are, but at 45, I feel like I just made the cut. I completely understand where younger people are coming from on this. They’re being asked to work and pay into Social Security to support an older generation that was able to afford homes more easily—and likely has significantly higher net worth—while knowing they may never see those benefits themselves. It’s a racket, no doubt.
That said, cutting unnecessary expenses like subscriptions or overpriced coffee won’t fix the system—but it doesn’t hurt either. Every little bit helps, especially when the game feels rigged.
For what it’s worth, my wife and I make good money, but we live well below our means. I pay cash for cars—never new, rarely even nice. We don’t use credit cards and carry no debt outside of our mortgage, which we’re on track to pay off early thanks to a sub-2% rate and consistently paying double toward the principal.
Unfortunately, for younger people and those who don’t already own a home, that kind of interest rate may never come around again. Ironically, if rates hadn’t been kept artificially low from 2008 to around 2024, we might not be in this situation. The prolonged suppression of rates devalued the dollar and eroded purchasing power—leaving today’s generation to deal with the fallout.
This post was edited on 3/18/25 at 9:35 am
Posted on 3/18/25 at 8:23 am to DrrTiger
quote:This is exactly right. If you can't find what you want in your current location at a price you can afford, find a new location.
$10 will get you a Rand McNally road map to other places.
This post was edited on 3/18/25 at 8:34 am
Posted on 3/18/25 at 8:25 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:Sounds like you want to stay in Texas. Wichita Falls, Midland, Odessa and Lubbock probably have homes in the $150K range.
What will $150k get you in Houston? Austin? San Antonio?
Posted on 3/18/25 at 8:28 am to SlowFlowPro
230,000 home 3 BR 2 Bath 1,800 sqft with 1/3 acre in a a top 5 school system and low crime. I looked at financing and would have been 50k down and 1200 a month total 30 year fixed conventional loan.
30 minutes to downtown Knoxville, 30 minutes to Pigeon Forge in a high growth area
It’s very doable if you are willing to actually try.
30 minutes to downtown Knoxville, 30 minutes to Pigeon Forge in a high growth area
It’s very doable if you are willing to actually try.
Posted on 3/18/25 at 8:28 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:n I'm that guy. If you don't want to sacrifice, don't and rent. I don't care. You'll be better off in 20 years if you do sacrifice today.
There is a guy ITT who argued in the last version of this thread those people should be happy to move 1.5 hours away from a lesser metro like Birmingham to BFE and make 3+ hours/day round trip commutes.
Posted on 3/18/25 at 8:36 am to scottydoesntknow
quote:Oh MY!
Not boomers or Xers...the softest generations of all time
Poor scotty! Poor baby! Scotty-doesnt-know how to financially plan, and can't figure it out, because figuring is really, really hard.
Seriously though, you came of age around the time of the Great Recession. That was hard for sure. No question.
Meanwhile, when the folks you're running on came of age, the draft was in full force, as was a pointless war. In contrast to your financial woes, >50,000 of those folks were killed and >250,000 were wounded.
In contrast to your financial woes, stagflation was the hallmark of 1970's economics.
Lending rates skyrocketed, eventually TRIPLING TODAY's RATES.
As if that wasn't enough, the Volcker Recession (VR) capped the era in 1981. Comparing the Volcker Recession with the financial crisis you saw in 2008, the so-called Great Recession (GR):
VR lasted 16 mos.
GR lasted 18 mos.
VR peak unemployment was 10.8%.
GR peak unemployment was 10.0%.
VR GDP contraction was -2.7%.
GR GDP contraction was -4.3%.
Posted on 3/18/25 at 8:40 am to Hayekian serf
quote:
Unfortunately, for younger people and those who don’t already own a home, that kind of interest rate may never come around again.
When we were paying 8% in the late 80s/early 90s we never thought those low interest rates would ever happen, period. If someone wants to look at peak low interest/low prices and sing woe is me, that's fine, but it's a bit unrealistic.
This post was edited on 3/18/25 at 8:49 am
Posted on 3/18/25 at 8:46 am to NIH
Hopefully, you have prepared for this moment.
Posted on 3/18/25 at 8:48 am to RollTide4547
quote:
Sounds like you want to stay in Texas.
The OP is in TX so I stayed in his state
TX has relatively cheap RE still for metros. It's also where the jobs are
If I was being unfair I'd talk about California
Posted on 3/18/25 at 8:49 am to RollTide4547
quote:
Sounds like you want to stay in Texas. Wichita Falls, Midland, Odessa and Lubbock probably have homes in the $150K range.
Link one
Posted on 3/18/25 at 8:51 am to Hayekian serf
I’ve got three kids under 35. A chem engineer, an Attorney and a recently graduated PA.
Two already own homes but went significantly more modest than $450k. However, they still grumbled about getting their down payments built up and complain about these historically favorable rates. But they didn’t do anything to make it easier.
What I’ve seen, this generation spoils themselves with trips to Florida, snow skiing, the Caribbean, etc. I see destination bridal showers and destination weddings. My youngest right now is holding invites to two destination weddings.
The point is, when I was first out of school, we didn’t spoil ourselves on trips and weddings 1,000 miles away…
Two already own homes but went significantly more modest than $450k. However, they still grumbled about getting their down payments built up and complain about these historically favorable rates. But they didn’t do anything to make it easier.
What I’ve seen, this generation spoils themselves with trips to Florida, snow skiing, the Caribbean, etc. I see destination bridal showers and destination weddings. My youngest right now is holding invites to two destination weddings.
The point is, when I was first out of school, we didn’t spoil ourselves on trips and weddings 1,000 miles away…
Posted on 3/18/25 at 9:01 am to Ostrich
On realtor dot com these are the number of homes between 110K and 150K.
Wichita Falls -- 80 homes
Midland -- 32 homes
Odessa -- 38 homes
Lubbock -- 187 homes
Wichita Falls -- 80 homes
Midland -- 32 homes
Odessa -- 38 homes
Lubbock -- 187 homes
Posted on 3/18/25 at 9:11 am to RollTide4547
Yeah but theyre all shitholes apparently because you have to replace the carpet or some shite 
Posted on 3/18/25 at 9:14 am to RollTide4547
quote:
Wichita Falls -- 80 homes
Midland -- 32 homes
Odessa -- 38 homes
Lubbock -- 187 homes
Are these areas that 22yr olds making 70k desire?
Or families that are just trying to get a roof over their head?
Some of those lubbock places look nice but the area is like my worst nightmare
Posted on 3/18/25 at 9:16 am to RollTide4547
quote:
On realtor dot com these are the number of homes between 110K and 150K.
Wichita Falls -- 80 homes
Midland -- 32 homes
Odessa -- 38 homes
Lubbock -- 187 homes
You can't link one that's not a shithole, and all of these towns are shitholes to begin with, hence the cheap real estate.
Posted on 3/18/25 at 9:16 am to SDVTiger
quote:Desire and afford are two different things.
Are these areas that 22yr olds making 70k desire?
You can want in one hand and shite in the other and see which gets filled first
Posted on 3/18/25 at 9:17 am to goldennugget
quote:
Also can you point me in the direction of those $500 beater cars that are always being talked about while you're at it
I have a 2012 Dodge Avenger with 212,000 miles. I'll let you have it for 1200. Just needs a little front end work. I drive it to work every day to keep the miles off my truck.
See, that wasn't very hard.
Posted on 3/18/25 at 9:19 am to Ostrich
quote:I already have linked on thats not shite hole. Whats become evident is that you will say any example is a shithole regardless
You can't link one that's not a shithole
Posted on 3/18/25 at 9:20 am to SDVTiger
quote:
Are these areas that 22yr olds making 70k desire?
Imagine thinking “desire” is your top priority when you don’t have a pot to piss in.
Posted on 3/18/25 at 9:20 am to SDVTiger
double post
This post was edited on 3/18/25 at 9:23 am
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