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re: Simone Biles with a message for all the girls out there

Posted on 7/28/21 at 10:44 am to
Posted by Pecker
Rocky Top
Member since May 2015
16674 posts
Posted on 7/28/21 at 10:44 am to
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I really don't get all the hate for this girl.

Whatever is going on with her 99.9% of the public have no clue what it is. So she made a personal decision for herself. How does her decision hurt anything other than her standing in her sport?

And I 100% do not think it sends any negative message to young girls to just quit when the going gets tough.

Maybe it sends the opposite message. Maybe is sends a message the you have a commitment and responsibility to yourself above all else (except your God).
I think the reaction to this sends a clear message to all young athletes. No one cares about you if you're not competing and winning.


Most people on this site aren't intelligent enough to understand nuance. They don't understand why she stepped aside and how it actually benefitted her teammates. All they know is that "quitting is bad!"

Posted by Tigersonfire
Pville
Member since Oct 2018
3027 posts
Posted on 7/28/21 at 10:48 am to
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Who was the other athlete to withdraw in the middle of a team competition at the pinnacle of the sport due to stress, and not an injury?


No no let him lean on his race card. It’s all he has in this life. fricking sad really.
This post was edited on 7/30/21 at 7:44 am
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35407 posts
Posted on 7/28/21 at 10:50 am to
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Because it hit her DURING competition. She hadn't felt exactly right. But she had never bailed on a skill. She bailed and was lost on the vault she competed. At that point, she knew the team was better without her.

Yeah. Losing your sense of balance in gymnastics can be deadly. As a 24 year old gymnast she has a lifetime of injuries that likely include concussions that could be triggered by having a tough landing or simply spinning too much. From what I read she had been taking anxiety meds for the sexual assaults which I am sure can also screw up your head when you are on them or even dosing down on.

I thought this was a ploy at first, but she has also backed out of the individual overall competition. I suspect she has a TBI or perhaps her body is giving out on her.
Posted by KillTheGophers
Member since Jan 2016
6218 posts
Posted on 7/28/21 at 10:51 am to
She is a sexual abuse victim - I am cutting her some slack and saying that the pressure and old wounds combined to cause a level of performance anxiety most of us will never know.

Now, if she competes later this week…..that will change my tune.


This post was edited on 7/28/21 at 10:51 am
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112495 posts
Posted on 7/28/21 at 10:52 am to
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Can’t imagine working that hard to quit… who did she rob a place on the team from?


OK, this goes way back to a lecture I heard from a college athletic director in the 1980s. A new study had just come out about sports injury and psychology.
They found that top level athletes in track and gymnastics (male and female) had a MUCH higher incidence of minor injury just before their biggest meet as opposed to all the rest of their season of competition. And it was a dramatic difference.

Psychologists concluded that it is subconscious avoidance of competing for the big one and losing, thus causing disappointment from coaches, family and fans. Instead you get sympathy.

Take it for what it's worth.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52805 posts
Posted on 7/28/21 at 10:57 am to
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What did Kamala Harris have to do with her withdrawing lol


I think he's showing the parallel between 2 "role models" propped up by the media. One being someone who quit on her team (not a good message to send to any child) or the other one, who slept her way into politics (again, not very empowering).

Yet you are the ONLY assclown on this board that jumps to race FIRST. You can always tell another's weakness by what they speak to the most. You are incredibly racist, and your constant insertion of race politics shows. You should be banned for this, filthy racist.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
29820 posts
Posted on 7/28/21 at 11:01 am to
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She is a sexual abuse victim - I am cutting her some slack and saying that the pressure and old wounds combined to cause a level of performance anxiety most of us will never know.



Exactly. And shes barely out of her teens. People act like she killed their puppy.

So many supposed Christians on this board with zero kindness or grace. So quick to pass judgment and dismiss a proven champion for a single perceived transgression.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33438 posts
Posted on 7/28/21 at 11:04 am to
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Simone Biles with a message for all the girls out there
The message being: you can come from nowhere and dominate your sport, playing through injuries and pain more grievous than any fatass on an LSU message board has ever known.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52805 posts
Posted on 7/28/21 at 11:05 am to
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Wasn’t some doctor molesting gymnasts awhile back...



So, she can train for the olympics, and compete in nationals, but she can't compete in the team competition because of Nassar? Yet she is still competing in the vault, floor, and balance beam finals.

This is where your argument falls apart. Listen, i don't doubt for one second, her head isn't into it. The pressure on her, put upon by the media and herself, got to be pretty heavy with all of this "GOAT" talk. Plus, as you said, she's dealing with sexual abuse. However, if this is the only event she pulls out of, then it's a very bad sign. It's showing that she bailed on her TEAM (I know that "team" is a foreign concept to leftists, you are insanely selfish people), but still wants to compete in stand alone events. One could reasonably imply that she quit on the team to not tarnish this stupid "GOAT" talk, and will resume only if she can medal.

Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52805 posts
Posted on 7/28/21 at 11:06 am to
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you can come from nowhere and dominate your sport, playing through injuries and pain more grievous


Isn't this true for all of her teammates that didn't quit?
Posted by RobbBobb
Matt Flynn, BCS MVP
Member since Feb 2007
27935 posts
Posted on 7/28/21 at 11:11 am to
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But be honest....not because she quit the Olympics. People withdraw all the time.

Just stop. She pulled a Tiger Woods. When it looked like he wasnt going to be in the running he developed an 'injury'

Tigers PR people never thought to use mental health, is the only difference
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
29820 posts
Posted on 7/28/21 at 11:12 am to
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This is where your argument falls apart. Listen, i don't doubt for one second, her head isn't into it. The pressure on her, put upon by the media and herself, got to be pretty heavy with all of this "GOAT" talk. Plus, as you said, she's dealing with sexual abuse. However, if this is the only event she pulls out of, then it's a very bad sign. It's showing that she bailed on her TEAM (I know that "team" is a foreign concept to leftists, you are insanely selfish people), but still wants to compete in stand alone events. One could reasonably imply that she quit on the team to not tarnish this stupid "GOAT" talk, and will resume only if she


How many gold medals do you have?

That’s what I thought.
Posted by GUAPLORD
#XANMOB
Member since Jun 2021
83 posts
Posted on 7/28/21 at 11:14 am to
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What the frick are you talking about? I’m saying it isn’t about her, it’s not about entertainment. It’s a competition between countries. She’s representing her country, her team, then herself. If those aren’t her priorities, in that order, then stay home and let someone else with those priorities compete
I think it’s interesting that you masquerade as a conservative but want to take away a POC’s right to compete. You’re either for personal freedoms or you aren’t. Pick a side, leftist.
This post was edited on 7/28/21 at 11:15 am
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35407 posts
Posted on 7/28/21 at 11:17 am to
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So, she can train for the olympics, and compete in nationals, but she can't compete in the team competition because of Nassar? Yet she is still competing in the vault, floor, and balance beam finals.

This is where your argument falls apart. Listen, i don't doubt for one second, her head isn't into it. The pressure on her, put upon by the media and herself, got to be pretty heavy with all of this "GOAT" talk. Plus, as you said, she's dealing with sexual abuse. However, if this is the only event she pulls out of, then it's a very bad sign. It's showing that she bailed on her TEAM (I know that "team" is a foreign concept to leftists, you are insanely selfish people), but still wants to compete in stand alone events. One could reasonably imply that she quit on the team to not tarnish this stupid "GOAT" talk, and will resume only if she can medal.
She pulled out of the individual overall this morning. I think she was the defending champion in that one.
Posted by hawkeye007
Member since Feb 2010
5854 posts
Posted on 7/28/21 at 11:18 am to
100%
Posted by TheBoo
South to Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
4516 posts
Posted on 7/28/21 at 11:19 am to
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To some degree you are correct. However, first she quit on her teammates who were relying on her to carry her weight on the TEAM. It would be no different if 52 guys busted their asses to be in a position to win a championship only to have the star QB say, "frick it, I'm done" in the 3rd quarter of the Super Bowl just because he threw an interception.

Second, she has willingly positioned herself in the public eye and benefited, financially, to a significant degree, as a role model and "inspirational" figure. Particularly, to young girls. If you are going to hold yourself out as an "inspirational figure" and best of all time, then you owe it to those people you've asked to be inspired by you to, at minimum, not quit at the first sign of adversity.

Heavy is the head that wears the crown. There is no question it is difficult and stressful to be EXPECTED to always perform at the highest level. And people are wiling to accept that sometimes even the best fail. But no one respects quitting on your team just because you faced adverse circumstances. I also don't recall her ever complain when she was hailed as the "GOAT" and happily accepting the endorsement money that came along with that status.

Making an error and losing is forgivable. Choosing to quit just because you made a mistake isn't.

All of this.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33438 posts
Posted on 7/28/21 at 11:26 am to
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Isn't this true for all of her teammates that didn't quit?
Which of her teammates has dominated their sport?
Posted by massilsu
Oz
Member since Sep 2020
1947 posts
Posted on 7/28/21 at 11:27 am to
i watched him quit a few times in his first stint with the Cavs ...he s a very polished quitter
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33438 posts
Posted on 7/28/21 at 11:29 am to
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Most people on this site aren't intelligent enough to understand nuance. They don't understand why she stepped aside and how it actually benefitted her teammates. All they know is that "quitting is bad!"
but muh quitter!!!
Posted by Bulldogblitz
In my house
Member since Dec 2018
26783 posts
Posted on 7/28/21 at 11:30 am to
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EthanL
Warren.

Terrible poster, role model, mouth breather, etc not only because you're librul.
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