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Posted on 8/7/23 at 9:33 am to deathvalleytiger10
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If you think the DoD, specifically Space Force, do not have the real results of the election, then you are fooling yourself.
And now, out of the blue, these agencies will bail on the deep state and come running to the defense of Trump?
I assume this is a rhetorical question because I have no way to verify her claims. Maybe the folks that follow the letter before R closely have more info on the matter.
Posted on 8/7/23 at 9:34 am to TigerDoc
Oh look Tigerdoc is here 
Posted on 8/7/23 at 9:35 am to TigerDoc
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It's a classic sovereign citizen CT.
IDK what this is.
Posted on 8/7/23 at 9:36 am to GumboPot
Sovereign Citizen Movement
A relevant excerpt:
A relevant excerpt:
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A widespread belief among sovereign citizens is that the state is not an actual government, but a "corporation": American movement members consider that the corporation purporting to be the U.S. federal government is illegally controlling the republic via a territorial government in Washington, DC.[51] Some sovereign citizens also believe that the United States "corporation" is bankrupt.[58] As a result, the illegitimate U.S. government is said to secretly use its citizens as collateral against foreign debt, effectively enslaving Americans. Sovereign citizens believe that this sale of American citizens takes place at the birth of each American baby, through issuing their birth certificate and attributing their Social Security number.
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Posted on 8/7/23 at 9:40 am to GumboPot
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On September 12, 2018 Trump created an executive order to combat election interference in future elections, any foreign or domestic interference, specifically for the 2020 election.
The DC federal indictment has opened the door for Trump to present his case of election fraud.
If you think the DoD, specifically Space Force, do not have the real results of the election, then you are fooling yourself.
About the claim that Trump lost 60 court cases on election fraud. No. There were 3 cases brought to court and Trump won 2 of the three. The other 57 cases were declared to not have standing and were not heard by the courts.
So the premise here is that the DoD has evidence of fraud related to a presidential election and the president who was impacted knew and opted to do nothing with it?
While allowing Rudy and his team to make wild unsubstantiated claims because Trump was witholding the evidence thus discrediting future claims of fraud he might make?
Because he thought that there would be a civil war if it were announced?
And that a better solution was to allow a false president to be installed and govern for years while prosecuting the former President for various reasons?
What purpose would any of that serve from Trumps POV? How would allowing a fraudulently elected president reduce the chance of violence if/when the evidence was ultimately made public?
If Trump wanted to dissolve the fed why wouldn't he expose the election fraud, use his second term to prosecute those responsible and just end the fed as you suggested he wanted to?
None of this helps Trump, ends the fed or reduces the chance of violence. So either its a terrible plan or its made up.
Posted on 8/7/23 at 9:41 am to GumboPot
That's alot to take in. If this is true, then God be with the process.
Posted on 8/7/23 at 9:44 am to Jjdoc
I have some belief in the US corporation exists and is bankrupt. The Vatican gold seems to be a stretch though.
Posted on 8/7/23 at 9:45 am to GumboPot
Ronbots and leftists swarm do tantrum and call her a cultist in 3..2..1
Posted on 8/7/23 at 9:48 am to GumboPot
Is this the same one who gave an assessment that Trump is "psychologically unbalanced?"
Posted on 8/7/23 at 9:48 am to Jjdoc
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That's alot to take in. If this is true, then God be with the process.
Or Trump did not watch all of the video and just retruthed it because he saw the first part of the video with Don Jr.'s comments.
Posted on 8/7/23 at 9:49 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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Is this the same one who gave an assessment that Trump is "psychologically unbalanced?"
I don't know. I looked her up and she is a psychologists.
Posted on 8/7/23 at 9:52 am to GumboPot
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Dr. Jan Halper-Hayes sounds like she may have been the letter before "R".
Posted on 8/7/23 at 9:59 am to tide06
quote:She sounds kinda crazy.
None of this helps Trump, ends the fed or reduces the chance of violence. So either its a terrible plan or its made up.
Posted on 8/7/23 at 9:59 am to GumboPot
She is. After she was brought on as an advisor, she explained it away.
Posted on 8/7/23 at 9:59 am to GumboPot
There’s some bad characters leading this country and I would dearly love to see them finally have a reckoning….. but this sounds like more of the fantastical type stuff that draws some people in and gets them excited for awhile but ultimately leads to nowhere.
Posted on 8/7/23 at 10:01 am to GumboPot
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He really felt that the people needed to see how bad it can really get.
Trump Loyalists should be relieved that lady is full of shite.
Posted on 8/7/23 at 10:03 am to GumboPot
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"They've got the goods and Trump knew if he presented the goods early on we would have a civil war. He really felt that the people needed to see how bad it can really get."
I have trouble buying this. If Trump had the goods to prevent the illegitimate installation of the Biden regime, I'd think (based on his history) that he'd put it out there and watch chaos ensue.
I want to believe it's true, but the logic makes no sense. Of the half of Americans that were already termininal with TDS, 98.7% of them will remain that way. Nothing was ever going to change that- not even 30% average cost of living inflation and empty wallets and bank accounts.
If someone was trying to prevent a "civil war", then I would ask, "why?"
If it's already bad enough (which it is) that the truth would catalyze a protracted bloody conflict that would likely reshape what the world has become heretofore... Then there probably isn't an alternative solution anyway other than to delay the inevitable.
Posted on 8/7/23 at 10:05 am to tide06
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So the premise here is that the DoD has evidence of fraud related to a presidential election and the president who was impacted knew and opted to do nothing with it?
Watch the video. She explains the why.
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And that a better solution was to allow a false president to be installed and govern for years while prosecuting the former President for various reasons?
What purpose would any of that serve from Trumps POV? How would allowing a fraudulently elected president reduce the chance of violence if/when the evidence was ultimately made public?
1- He won 2 out of the 3 cases heard.
2- the others cases, the courts REFUSED to hear. There is the issue.
Now, the courts and the people will have to hear it. Even if the judge tries to keep it out, it moves up the chain.
3- From his POV, it allows people to open their eyes?
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None of this helps Trump, ends the fed or reduces the chance of violence. So either its a terrible plan or its made up.
It might have been the only play. Had he used the military, he would be a "dictator".
Posted on 8/7/23 at 10:05 am to tide06
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None of this helps Trump, ends the fed or reduces the chance of violence. So either its a terrible plan or its made up.
so you don't understand n-D underwater intergalactic 0-g chess ???
neither do I -
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