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Posted on 9/13/25 at 7:03 pm to ibldprplgld
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Adoption says otherwise.
Even adopted children cannot be born through homosexual sex
Posted on 9/13/25 at 7:11 pm to ctiger69
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Gay marriage should be reversed
Why? It’s just a contract between 2 consenting adults who agree to mutual assplay, sword fighting, and scissoring.
Let them scissor.
Posted on 9/13/25 at 7:12 pm to ibldprplgld
There should at least be the possibility of conception between the 2 partners. I understand that it’s not always possible for medical reasons but that ought not justify a scientific impossibility with homosexual arrangements.
Also, homosexual relationships have much higher incidence of infidelity.
Also, homosexual relationships have much higher incidence of infidelity.
Posted on 9/13/25 at 7:23 pm to Auburn80
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I don’t care if you disagree but at least come up with a competent reason why if you want to discuss it.
That is a competent reason. It's called a hypothetical and it's used in a logical debate situation to test logic. It's usually posed as an extreme case to make the logic stand out.
Your stated reasons for not caring were:
1. It's an adult
2. It doesn't affect you
The hypothetical was designed to expose the fact that those reasons are inadequate to logically support your position. Which it did.
Since you don't know how logic works I will explain all the moving parts from now on as we go.
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I have no problem with gay marriage.
Yeah, that's fine, but lots of white people didn't have a problem with racial segregation (this time I'm using a direct comparison for the same purpose as the hypothetical), nor did it affect them personally. Again, your personal feelings are inadequate to make a case for public policy.
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Gay people are going to live together regardless of a piece of paper.
And people are going to rape regardless of whether there is a law against it or not. (Another direct comparison for the same purpose as above). But the state legitimizing something has a different effect on how prevalent it is in society even though legalizing it or not doesn't completely eradicate it.
This post was edited on 9/13/25 at 7:26 pm
Posted on 9/13/25 at 7:25 pm to Scott68
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The over-the-top anti-social deviants (trans, "furries", etc.) have done a wonderful job of attaching themselves to the gay/lesbian portion of society.
Yup fully agreed, except there's nothing wrong with furries as a group, I mean they aren't chopping themselves up or trying to cancel people.
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If you are gay/lesbian you get pulled into these debates as if you are somehow obligated to support trans ideology, or it is just assumed that you support that ideology.
I mean if you ignore the parades, the months, the GLAAD, the legal apparatus that the pride movement has used to support trans legally and socially.
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As the father of a lesbian, I can see the effort she has to go through to distance herself from the LGBTQIA+++++ community, and what is PERCEIVED as their shared values, when none of those things are true.
What effort exactly?
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My daughter struggles with the notion that if she does not accept all people, will people still accept her? It makes me sad as a parent, because she holds none of the values that the trans community foists upon her, and yet she feels that if she makes her views known, it will justify HER being rejected by others. It's a tough spot.
Yea, it's tough doing the right thing, just like all those Germans who faced being actually killed if they spoke up.
Instead they just let others die.
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She just wants to be viewed as an individual and to be judged accordingly.
Again, what has she done to separate herself from that movement?
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The LGBTQIA+++++ alliance has hijacked the lives of many who want no part of that grouping.
Yup you could replace LGBTQIA++++ with Nazis and its the same thing.
Or you could look at Scott Presler and see someone who actually wants to make the effort to stand against things he knows are wrong.
I have zero sympathy for anyone no speaking up against trans ideology.
Do you understand that by not speaking up, more and more children enter a life of "gender confusion" where they start damaging themselves.
No one is born trans, (some people are born inter-sexed, not a lot), that means that every trans person out there was once an innocent kid who had a chance to live a life free from that specific mental illness.
Speak up or be part of the problem.
This post was edited on 9/13/25 at 7:27 pm
Posted on 9/13/25 at 7:28 pm to ctiger69
Disagree.
Gay marriage didn't kill Charlie. No reason to push that hard. Just keep focused on the trannies.
Gay marriage didn't kill Charlie. No reason to push that hard. Just keep focused on the trannies.
Posted on 9/13/25 at 7:29 pm to ctiger69
This thread is incredibly stupid
Posted on 9/13/25 at 7:39 pm to ctiger69
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Then you support the trans movement.
Consenting adults of the opposite sex getting married hurts nobody and is 100% critical for the ultimate survival of a civilization.
First of all the majority of gays are completely disgusted by and do not support, the trans lifestyle/ agenda. Second, trans in no way, shape or form has anything to do with being gay...as I have said before...Just ask Bruce Jenner...he cut his dick off and still dates women. Trans is a pure mental disorder of body dysmorphia..it has nothing to do with sexual preference.If you are going to make bold statements on societal norms then please get your facts right...Gays should not be lumped in with this very sick group...If you hate gay people then so be it...but get it right.
Posted on 9/13/25 at 7:41 pm to RFK
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I’m sorry but what does any of this have to do with consenting adults deciding who to marry.
The slippery slope is slippery. Trans is not the “final form” of sexual deviance- pedos are. Where I probably disagree with most, is where the top of this slope is. It ain’t homos. It’s heterosexual deviance.
Posted on 9/13/25 at 7:53 pm to ctiger69
Are you an alter for senator Lindsey Graham?
You wanna lose 2026 and 2028? Do this.
Just focus on trannies, DEI, affirmative action, crime, etc.
Stupid shite like gay marriage is a surefire loser.
You wanna lose 2026 and 2028? Do this.
Just focus on trannies, DEI, affirmative action, crime, etc.
Stupid shite like gay marriage is a surefire loser.
Posted on 9/13/25 at 7:59 pm to Tigahs24Seven
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Gays should not be lumped in with this very sick group
Says you.
The big difference between the two groups is that trans individuals have inappropriate and hallucinatory perceptions about their own bodies and identities, while gay people have distorted fetish-like sexual desires for members of the same sex.
Neither are normal. Both are enabled by the psychological community. The big difference being the length of time that each has been enabled. Roughly 50 years vs roughly 12 years.
People with gender dysphoria have a sky-high rate of suicidal ideation and a high rate of depression, but gay and lesbian couples also have (depending upon which we're discussing) disproportionately high rates of domestic violence, promiscuity, divorce, and depression. And suicide, though not nearly as high as people with GD.
So yeah,there are differences, but neither are normal.
This post was edited on 9/13/25 at 8:03 pm
Posted on 9/13/25 at 8:14 pm to wackatimesthree
Says you....
So, if I come from a family of 8 kids in a very Christian home and 1 of us ends up being gay you are saying the pysch community allowed this and made it happen to only 1 of us???? Seriously?
Raised the same with 2 parents, church every Sunday, and somehow, although it was obvious from birth, it was just a sin that was a choice and allowed by the psych community.
Stop making shite up that you know nothing about. Nobody chooses to be gay...However, trans is a CHOICE and IS allowed and encouraged by mentally ill parents who want attention and the psych community.
Get your story straight.
So, if I come from a family of 8 kids in a very Christian home and 1 of us ends up being gay you are saying the pysch community allowed this and made it happen to only 1 of us???? Seriously?
Raised the same with 2 parents, church every Sunday, and somehow, although it was obvious from birth, it was just a sin that was a choice and allowed by the psych community.
Stop making shite up that you know nothing about. Nobody chooses to be gay...However, trans is a CHOICE and IS allowed and encouraged by mentally ill parents who want attention and the psych community.
Get your story straight.
Posted on 9/13/25 at 8:14 pm to MMauler
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Gay marriage was already legal in almost half the states (if not more).
Only three states actually voted to allow it. ALL the other states voted to protect traditional marriage only to have Democrat activist judges rule the state's law unconstitutional.
Even California's vote fell short. The gay side then said 'the heck with the referendum vote.' You know the process the gays pushed for. The gay side ignored the will of the people and turned to the activist courts.
Posted on 9/13/25 at 8:31 pm to ctiger69
Absolutely.
It normalizes what should not be normalized.
It normalizes what should not be normalized.
Posted on 9/13/25 at 8:38 pm to Tigahs24Seven
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So, if I come from a family of 8 kids in a very Christian home and 1 of us ends up being gay you are saying the pysch community allowed this and made it happen to only 1 of us????
No, idiot. Read what i wrote again.
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Raised the same with 2 parents, church every Sunday, and somehow, although it was obvious from birth, it was just a sin that was a choice and allowed by the psych community.
No, idiot. i never said anything about it being a choice (what mental illnesses are a choice?). And I don't know what "allowed" means. The psychological community took homosexuality out of the DSM around 50 years ago in response to no new data or research, purely as a political move, around 50 years ago. They don't "allow" it. They just stopped correctly identifying it as a mental illness.
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Stop making shite up that you know nothing about.
How about you stop making shite up that I never said?
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Nobody chooses to be gay
I never said anyone did.
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However, trans is a CHOICE
Having gender dysphoria is no more a choice than having a fetish-like attraction to members of the same sex. Both gay and trans people make a choice to lean into what they do about their feelings, but no one said the feelings are a choice, nor do I think that's the case.
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encouraged by mentally ill parents who want attention and the psych community.
And identifying as LGB is also a social contagion encouraged by schools and other thought influencers, which is exactly why something like 25% of young people now "identify" as LGBTQ. The vast majority of those are "Bs." That's a fact.
Posted on 9/13/25 at 8:45 pm to SixthAndBarone
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Oh, and government shouldn’t be involved in any marriage any way.
No marriage is legal unless the State registers it. You need that for legal reasons.
If only the church can create a marriage then only the church can dissolve it. The fact that so many Christian’s run to an attorney for a divorce shows it’s not truly a Church function.
Posted on 9/13/25 at 8:52 pm to Auburn80
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The fact that so many Christian’s run to an attorney for a divorce shows it’s not truly a Church function.
Is vs ought.
He made a prescriptive statement and you're answering it as though he made a descriptive statement.
You really don't know much about logic, do you?
Posted on 9/13/25 at 8:53 pm to ctiger69
And ever win a national election ever again.
How bout some mother fricking freedom?
How bout some mother fricking freedom?
Posted on 9/13/25 at 8:53 pm to Auburn80
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I don’t care what any adult does. Just leave the kids out of it. I have no problem with gay marriage if the two people are committed to each other. Doesn’t affect me
They help continue their orientation by influencing children. The minds of kids are always going to be a target.
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