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re: SHOCKER! LTC Vindman is a dim Partisan w/ Hx of Shittalking America While On Duty

Posted on 11/2/19 at 11:05 am to
Posted by Godfather1
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Posted on 11/2/19 at 11:05 am to
When people tell you who they are, you should always believe them.

Obama’s stated purpose was to “fundamentally transform” this country. Why people would think that didn’t include the military is beyond me. Gutting the military would seem essential to any fundamental transformation.

And unlike the bullshite EOs, THAT shite is going to take some time to undo and get back on track.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
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Posted on 11/2/19 at 11:06 am to
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I’m too damn lazy


Oh look. A rare moment of honesty from little Ethan.
Posted by Armymann50
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Posted on 11/2/19 at 11:09 am to
LTC Vindman = twat
Posted by davyjones
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Posted on 11/2/19 at 11:12 am to
Twat's good. I like the level of contempt it communicates. Tampon could also work in a pinch.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 11/2/19 at 11:16 am to
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EthanL



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I’m too damn lazy


No doubt, which is why you vote for Democrat policy.
Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
127393 posts
Posted on 11/2/19 at 11:20 am to
My Afghanistan deployment was before the campaign medal was developed. When it was announced you were given your choice as to which one you wanted to wear. I requested the ACM for my permanent record. For those who deployed before 2005 and can choose it is an odd choice. Why would you not want to proudly identity where you served?

I thought the current conflict only permitted a single award of the CIB. He would have had to had served in the first Gulf War to have earned a star (if I am remembering correctly). He is to young to have done that. And yeah, you can see by the joint awards and the staff identification badges he has national capital region written all over him.
Posted by cokebottleag
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Posted on 11/2/19 at 11:20 am to
You get an OSR for Hawaii???

Learn something new every day.
Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
127393 posts
Posted on 11/2/19 at 11:22 am to
Per 670-1, he is authorized to wear his blue cord. Uniform failure on his part.

I missed that one. Damn you are on fire
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 11/2/19 at 11:23 am to
Sounds like it's time for action. If you can't purge them, you CAN damn sure have them reassigned.

LTC Vindman could use a tour as liason to the USAF at some base like Thule writing a manual as to how to dispose of refuse under Arctic conditions or something similar.

You might not have to purge these SJW officers, just have them assigned where they can't hurt anyone. Make them miserable enough where attrition takes care of them.

Treat them the way the Army thanked Patton for his service just before he died. In this case it would be a service to the nation.
This post was edited on 11/2/19 at 11:27 am
Posted by OleWar
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Posted on 11/2/19 at 12:02 pm to
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Sounds like it's time for action. If you can't purge them, you CAN damn sure have them reassigned


frick that, based on his opening statement alone, he showed allegiance to a foreign government, at a minimum he should have his security clearance revoked.

He has already served twenty years, he probably is ready to get out and transfer his clearance in to making more money in some fraudulent private intelligence contracting firm , most likely part of his calculation.
Posted by PhDoogan
Member since Sep 2018
14977 posts
Posted on 11/2/19 at 12:12 pm to
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Although the "What a minute?" Throws it off slightly, or is that on purpose?


Not on purpose, Giphy was all messed up this morning. Tried to upload so many times this morning and so probably just didn't tweak it enough.
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
26717 posts
Posted on 11/2/19 at 1:15 pm to
Him maybe, but there's plenty of others. Don't kick them out, just assign them to Antartica or something. Make them M-I-S-E-R-A B-L-E.

The equivalent of shipping them to a gulag. Get them out of The Pentagon The White House and places they can actually do damage.

Hell build a base someplace and give them the Patton treatment. let them write the history of the Spanish American War as seen though the eyes of the Spanish.

Create a Army and Fleet level Command to do it, and send all the SJW officers from General and Admiral to go do this important task. Get their asses out of where they can do any harm. They still have their rank and perks, just no real authority. Just like Patton .


Replace them with actual officers.
This post was edited on 11/2/19 at 1:23 pm
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
81611 posts
Posted on 11/2/19 at 1:34 pm to
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Per 670-1, he is authorized to wear his blue cord. Uniform failure on his part.

I missed that one. Damn you are on fire


One of my quirks which often irritates those senior to me is that I can spot minor details immediately about 90% of the time.

Last week, our commander had a new policy with a default 4856 to go with it. My boss printed them out for us. I picked it off from his desk and immediately noticed it was wrong.

"Uh, sir...'As an NCO'?" His reaction was "goddammit, now I've got to print them all out again...thanks (name redacted)"

Another one was last year when I reviewed an MFR my boss was going to draft to send on behalf of the Division.

"Ma'am, you're a staff primary but you list your branch in your signature block. You need to change it to GS."
This post was edited on 11/2/19 at 1:47 pm
Posted by Champagne
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Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 11/2/19 at 3:58 pm to
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Keep in mind the most difficult articles of the UCMJ to prosecute under are, in order:


I'm talking about his OER reflecting his misconduct and you are talking about a Court Martial? That's quite a jump, isn't it?

Can you think of some appropriate way that his loose talk could have been addressed by his chain of command so that his next promotion board would have knowledge of his professional judgment and conduct? I'm sure you agree that just letting this loose talk in a professional environment shouldn't be ignored.
Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
127393 posts
Posted on 11/2/19 at 4:20 pm to
I can defend one thing. Having served now as a CoS for nearly 2 1/2 years, my brain now feels like it is on the edge of mush. I lurch from topic to topic to topic throughout the day. I spend every moment trying to put out fires. So I can empathize with your boss. You simply do not have the ability to focus at that level anymore. It is insane.
Posted by UAinSOUTHAL
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Member since Dec 2012
5300 posts
Posted on 11/2/19 at 5:13 pm to
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And the whistleblower was a Ukrainian in Ukraine

Does a foreign national on his soil really get the protections of the WB statute?



No. The whistleblower isn’t from Ukraine. It has to be an American. We already know they worked in the White House and are a CIA asset. No way it’s the Ukrainian Finance Minister, that doesn’t even make sense.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 11/2/19 at 5:46 pm to
The whistleblower is some underling of Brennan who worked for Biden.

That is why his name must be "secret".
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 11/2/19 at 5:54 pm to
Without multiple counseling statements in writing, HRC would kick the OER back and not allow it to post to his record if it had those comments in it.
Posted by themunch
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Posted on 11/2/19 at 5:59 pm to
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Obama as CIC, removed quite a few military officers
Posted by Champagne
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Member since Oct 2007
55317 posts
Posted on 11/2/19 at 6:08 pm to
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Without multiple counseling statements in writing, HRC would kick the OER back and not allow it to post to his record if it had those comments in it.


No, I think that if a US Army officer takes some time during an afternoon visit with Russian officers to make some unprofessional and service-discrediting comments that reflect poorly on his temperament and judgment that there's some things that his Commander could do short of Court Martial that would not require "multiple counseling statements in writing".

Couldn't his Commander verify that the statements were made and then issue a Memo of Reprimand to MAJ Vindman? Something like that. There must be some way that his Commander could have made sure to place this misconduct before the Promotion Board, right? A memo of reprimand in Vindman's personnel file would be seen by the promotion board, I think.

On the other hand, maybe Vindman's chain of command agree with Vindman. The most simple explanation isn't that Vindman's Commander has no idea how to manage his people, but, rather, that he or she agrees with Vindman's comments.
This post was edited on 11/2/19 at 6:12 pm
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