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"Service economies aren't supposed to charge tariffs, only manufacturing economies should"

Posted on 4/3/25 at 10:21 am
Posted by goldennugget
NIL Ruined College Sports
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Posted on 4/3/25 at 10:21 am
Keep hearing this from the anti tariff, pro overseas slave child labor crowd as to why reciprocal tariffs are bad in this case

Dumbasses. That's the point. We aren't supposed to be a service economy. Time to go back to being a manufacturing and goods producing economy and let the countries who subsist on slave child labor to go frick themselves

Posted by FightinTigersDammit
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Posted on 4/3/25 at 10:33 am to
You can't be a great nation by doing each other's laundry- Chuck Harder
Posted by tide06
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Posted on 4/3/25 at 10:34 am to
If being a service based economy worked we wouldn’t be running budget historic budget deficits.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 4/3/25 at 10:34 am to
A service economy cannot exist if we don't make stuff.
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 4/3/25 at 10:35 am to
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If being a service based economy worked we wouldn’t be running budget historic budget deficits.


Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 4/3/25 at 10:36 am to
According to SFP, McDonald’s workers are higher skilled and more valuable than any manufacturing job brought back to the United States.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
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Posted on 4/3/25 at 10:38 am to
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If being a service based economy worked we wouldn’t be running budget historic budget deficits.



Any economy can be outspent by a voracious government, so I guess no economies work.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476983 posts
Posted on 4/3/25 at 10:38 am to
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We aren't supposed to be a service economy. Time to go back to being a manufacturing and goods producing economy

And lower our economic status and SOL? Why?
Posted by JellyRoll
Member since Apr 2024
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Posted on 4/3/25 at 10:38 am to
This thread and all the responses show me many do get it. Well done folks,
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476983 posts
Posted on 4/3/25 at 10:39 am to
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According to SFP, McDonald’s workers are higher skilled and more valuable than any manufacturing job brought back to the United States.

Oh man you're really melting about that.

I've been asking that question for 3 weeks now and everyone melts instead of answers. It's a really good question.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476983 posts
Posted on 4/3/25 at 10:41 am to
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Any economy can be outspent by a voracious government,

Correct

This conflation is mind-boggling. People will repeat anything when they're told to by their team, it appears.
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
41326 posts
Posted on 4/3/25 at 10:42 am to
That’s because your comparison is stupid.

Could half of McDonald’s workforce even pass a drug test to work in a manufacturing facility, much less show up on time?
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 4/3/25 at 10:44 am to
Why are you defending less production?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476983 posts
Posted on 4/3/25 at 10:45 am to
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That’s because your comparison is stupid.

But it's not. You're still fighting the reality of it.

quote:

Could half of McDonald’s workforce even pass a drug test to work in a manufacturing facility, much less show up on time?

Yup. Still fighting it.

One day you'll decide to stop melting and answer.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476983 posts
Posted on 4/3/25 at 10:47 am to
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Why are you defending less production?


In exchange for higher-margin production and a more affluent, robust society-economy? I wonder why.

Poor nations produce for pure volume.

Rich nations aim for higher-value production.

The US has the best combination of both. I'm rejecting a theory that wants to erode our higher-margin output in exchange for lower-margin output and a devolved economic standing and SOL, as a result.
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
10870 posts
Posted on 4/3/25 at 10:51 am to
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Dumbasses. That's the point. We aren't supposed to be a service economy. Time to go back to being a manufacturing and goods producing economy and let the countries who subsist on slave child labor to go frick themselves


Listen punk, I wont pay an extra dollar for my can of tennis balls because you think you need to bathe in avacodo sparkling water. Maybe if you had not bought bubble gum and candy when you were a kid, youd have been smart like me and invested in the stock market!
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
23364 posts
Posted on 4/3/25 at 10:59 am to
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Any economy can be outspent by a voracious government, so I guess no economies work.

Absolutely true and I would love to address the spending via DOGE as the president is attempting to do despite the wailing of both parties.

It’s also absolutely true that nations throughout the world are managing to run deficits far smaller proportionally to GDP while providing more in the way of government services.

So we seem to be either particularly inefficient at spending, not good enough at providing services to make that the cornerstone of our economic focus or both.

And that’s setting aside what I view as the existential threats intrinsic to relying on strategic opponents to produce your critical manufactured goods, medicine and defense components.
This post was edited on 4/3/25 at 11:00 am
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
28172 posts
Posted on 4/3/25 at 11:02 am to
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It’s also absolutely true that nations throughout the world are managing to run deficits far smaller proportionally to GDP while providing more in the way of government services.


And yet their standard of living is lower than ours, mainly because they tax the shite out of their people to provide those government services.
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
10870 posts
Posted on 4/3/25 at 11:04 am to
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quote:Why are you defending less production? In exchange for higher-margin production and a more affluent, robust society-economy? I wonder why. Poor nations produce for pure volume. Rich nations aim for higher-value production. The US has the best combination of both. I'm rejecting a theory that wants to erode our higher-margin output in exchange for lower-margin output and a devolved economic standing and SOL, as a result.


Is someone that has nice things because they bought them with credit cards affluent...or just pretending to be?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476983 posts
Posted on 4/3/25 at 11:05 am to
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Is someone that has nice things because they bought them with credit cards affluent...or just pretending to be?

I'm discussing our economy.

You're discussing something else (either consumer credit or public debt).
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