re: Seriously, how do we win if they don't quit?

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My position is we have been at war with them since 79

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Peak effort gaslighting

But for the record, many of them have been at war with us since 1953.

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I am now better educated.

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There are probably a dozen C-130 variants. AFSOC uses MC-130s, I think the Marines have a KC-130 that's a refueler, Coasties have a version, etc. They may have different letters before the "C" or after the "130" but they're all C-130s. You can't tell most of them apart by looking unless you're very familiar with that world. Even the gunship just looks like a plain C-130 from the starboard side.

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were pretending to be there to help. You are all going to be seen as monsters forever after this. There's no coming back.

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You are detached from reality and can’t be helped.

The formenting of a resistance with an approved leader should have hapeened way before this started. I was glad when this started, but now that I see the crappy planning, I am not confident that anything will be changed in Iran a year from now.
Telling the populous to rise up without support is not much of a plan.

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multiple times that regime change will be up to the Iranians.

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killing another country's leader isnt Regime change?

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We and Israel are clearly going to arm them .

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Who exactly are we going to "arm" here? in the middle east, the Kurds? How has that worked for us in the past? This is going to take years, how much money are we talking about spending here?

Vietnam 2.0. Here comes 10 million Iranian refugees settling in DFW.

The regime isn't a single person. It could even be defined that it's the entire 10-15% of the ruling population. That has to be reversed to qualify as "regime change".

Treating Iranians as some backwater 7th century population like others in the area is not accurate. It'll be one of the world's largest emerging economies in 5-10 years if the can secure it

Who are we going to arm? There are hundreds of thousands, if not more, that will fight the IRGC until there is no more IRGC.

There are 3 people who have consistently told these factions to stay home until it's time. Trump, netanyahu, and the shah.

I don't know how much money is going to be spent. Removing a group of people that are directly responsible for American deaths, kills its own population by the tens of thousands and is generally thought to be suicidal psychopaths pushing for dead Americans, well, better spend the money on it now rather than later, or worse, we get a pushover leadership that simps for the regime, like Ben Rhodes or Murphy from Connecticut, then the price is incalculable.

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Arm the Iranians.

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There it is

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How? With what? How do we determine only the good guys will get them? Do we need to train them?

It sounds good on paper, logistically not so much.

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Clearly its an arse beating

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I call that winning.

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we lose if there is no regime change.

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Unless, we completely eliminate their ability to attack allies and we open the shipping lanes.

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Winning is guaranteed.