re: Seriously, how do we win if they don't quit?

We can't win unless we deploy nuclear weapons.

It's apparent that this is the hill that they are going to die on because it's not about geopolitics, it's a religious crusade for them.

They have leverage because they will attack trade and oil infrastructure until this administration has no choice but to concede when US citizens and its allies raise their pitch forks decrying spilt American blood, obscene grocery and pump prices, and business deals falling through.

It would be so America if we let our arse get kicked by cheap arse drones after watching everything that has happened in Ukraine.

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Not nearly as intimidating as an A10. It's just weird that guy mentioned C-130's twice. As if they strike the fear of God into an opponent.

It's a cargo plane.

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If you've never heard of the AC-130 you should probably just stop talking about military aircraft.

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C-130's aren't combat aircraft. You must be thinking of something else.

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Angel of Death

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Dude, they are the same thing. Money or cash. If I ask if you have either what is your interpretation?

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Sorry. I grew up next to Dobbins and Lockheed, toured C-130's multiple times, my scout master Veda Ruiz was a navigator on them at Dobbins. He died in the C-130 crash there. I didn't know they made an attack version of them. A designates Attack. C designates Cargo. He said C-130. So you can see how I didn't know what he was talking about. He said it twice. That's when I jumped in to inquire. Thanks for the information. I am now better educated.

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We cant pull our forces back until they stop bombing the Persian Gulf.

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Lol, our forces are already pulled back! Thats why they can bomb the area. The us army has been scuttled from its bases and the navy has retreated deeper into the Indian Ocean. What a win!

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2 weeks ago 80% of the posters on this forum said this would easily be over in less than 2 weeks.

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Do you not feel a little shame for just making things up because the alternative is accepting being wrong?

Both Trump and Netanyahu have told the Persians to be ready to take the opportunity to rise up. I believe they will arm the people and give them assistance through technology and special forces to take their country back.

Could be wrong but I think that is the hope but I agree, that this will be considered a failure should there be no regime change. It will be blasted as such no matter how weakened the IRGC and cleric group are.

Maybe Kurds to a certain extent.

Cut off all oil, water and food supplies.

They will quit, not if but when.

We have to be strong and actually put that work in though. We don’t have the stomach for this. Israel does.

When they all reach room temperature