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re: Serious question. When Christians visits the Western Wall do they pray to Jesus?
Posted on 4/19/25 at 9:55 am to Geaux-2-L-O-Miss
Posted on 4/19/25 at 9:55 am to Geaux-2-L-O-Miss
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The thing I don't get is "Christians" wearing a Kippah when in Isreal.
Same to me as when I go to someone’s house and they ask me to remove my shoes. I respect my host as long as it isn’t a conflict in my core values.
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Posted on 4/19/25 at 10:01 am to LazloHollyfeld
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Was Jesus a Christian? A Christian is someone who follows the teachings of Jesus - did he follow himself?
Huh??? Your question presumes Jesus was simply a person, a human, that He possesed only a human nature. He also had a divine nature.
Jesus is God. He sad so many times and when his accusers asked Him if He claimed to be God, Jesus claried even further, replying, " if you have seen Me you have seen the Father ".
There are other instances where Jesus could have cleared up any misunderstanding of his claims. Jesus never attempted to do so.
Posted on 4/19/25 at 10:03 am to Neutral Underground
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Its symbolic. Huckabee is also super religious. I am sure that he felt something special being in the "Holy Land". Why are we so dedicated to protecting Israel? Is it because of its association with Christ or because we are being controlled by a group of people who refer to themselves as "God's Chosen People."?
I think for some Christians it’s important not to lose that area.
But as far as the west goes, it’s our in to the Middle East.
Posted on 4/19/25 at 10:11 am to THRILLHO
quote:geauxburrow is unable to grasp this for some reason.
Jews are a major proponent and funder of the unfettered immigration of Muslims into western/white/Christian countries.
Illegal migration is NOT an Islamist activity - it is solely Jewish, a bizzarre turn of events that illuminates much and keeps smooth brains and Scofield Bible devotees in the dark steeped in lies and obfuscation.
It is also one of the main evident reasons to think that Israeli supremacists just do not have "western/white/Christian countries" best interests at heart.
You can lump this into election fraud usurpation. In fact, if you study it is obvious what is going on.
Posted on 4/19/25 at 10:13 am to GeauxBurrow312
quote:What an incredibly ignorant, pompous thing to say.
Real Christians know.
Aside from your ridiculously naive and uneducated boomer Scofield bible take, you say something so divisive and expect to be taken seriously?
Posted on 4/19/25 at 10:14 am to hansenthered1
Even atheists I know concede there is a spirit (soul) inside them, and they aren’t just a body and I think everyone agrees we have a mind. We are made in the image of God, and each person has a distinct 3 personhood (mind, body, spirit). The idea of a trinitarian God isnt that foreign. The truth is written in our hearts and we are faced with the pursuit of that truth or to deny its existence. That is the human choice.
Posted on 4/19/25 at 10:18 am to RCDfan1950
Actually it's Iran and Hamas after the Jews. Most of the ME was ready to sign accords when Iran stepped in to squash such a peace deal. And it worked...for now.
Posted on 4/19/25 at 10:19 am to GumboPot
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Serious question. When Christians visits the Western Wall do they pray to Jesus?
Why wouldn't they?
Posted on 4/19/25 at 10:23 am to Neutral Underground
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Its symbolic. Huckabee is also super religious. I am sure that he felt something special being in the "Holy Land". Why are we so dedicated to protecting Israel? Is it because of its association with Christ or because we are being controlled by a group of people who refer to themselves as "God's Chosen People."?
bro the modern political state of Israel and the current "Jewish Religion" is not the same Israel and Judaism of the Bible.
Christianity, namely Catholicism/Orthodoxy is the continuation and fulfillment of God's covenant with Israel
By Christ coming back to Earth and rising from the dead, he sealed that new Covenant and created "The Church", which is simply ancient Judaism from the OT+ the Eucharist.
The Church is the new Israel. By rejecting the Church and its groom, Christ, the Jews are not apart of the Covenant and therefore cannot claim a lineage dating back to the OT prophets
This post was edited on 4/19/25 at 10:29 am
Posted on 4/19/25 at 10:27 am to GumboPot
Ask yourself -
What is the Western (aka Wailing) Wall.
Why is it significant?
Why do Jews pray to it? What about Christians?
From Grok -
For a Christian, praying and leaving a written prayer at the Western Wall can hold significant spiritual and symbolic meaning, though it differs from its role in Judaism. The Wall, as a remnant of the Second Temple, is historically and biblically tied to the life of Jesus, who is believed to have taught and worshipped in the Temple precincts (e.g., John 2:13-22, Mark 11:15-17). Visiting the Wall can thus serve as a tangible connection to Jesus’ life and ministry, deepening a Christian’s sense of biblical history.
The act of praying at the Wall may be seen as a way to engage with the shared spiritual heritage of Judaism and Christianity, acknowledging the Jewish roots of the Christian faith. Leaving a written prayer in the Wall’s crevices, a practice adopted by many non-Jews, can symbolize entrusting personal petitions to God in a place revered for its holiness across faiths. For some Christians, it may also express solidarity with the Jewish people or a desire for peace in Jerusalem, a city central to Christian eschatology and salvation history.
The significance varies by individual and denomination. Some Christians, especially those with a strong interest in biblical prophecy or Jewish-Christian relations, may find it profoundly meaningful, while others might see it as less essential, focusing instead on sites directly associated with Jesus’ life, like the Church of the Holy Sepulchre. Ultimately, the act is often a personal expression of faith, reverence for the site’s historical sanctity, and a way to connect with God in a place of deep spiritual resonance.
What is the Western (aka Wailing) Wall.
Why is it significant?
Why do Jews pray to it? What about Christians?
From Grok -
For a Christian, praying and leaving a written prayer at the Western Wall can hold significant spiritual and symbolic meaning, though it differs from its role in Judaism. The Wall, as a remnant of the Second Temple, is historically and biblically tied to the life of Jesus, who is believed to have taught and worshipped in the Temple precincts (e.g., John 2:13-22, Mark 11:15-17). Visiting the Wall can thus serve as a tangible connection to Jesus’ life and ministry, deepening a Christian’s sense of biblical history.
The act of praying at the Wall may be seen as a way to engage with the shared spiritual heritage of Judaism and Christianity, acknowledging the Jewish roots of the Christian faith. Leaving a written prayer in the Wall’s crevices, a practice adopted by many non-Jews, can symbolize entrusting personal petitions to God in a place revered for its holiness across faiths. For some Christians, it may also express solidarity with the Jewish people or a desire for peace in Jerusalem, a city central to Christian eschatology and salvation history.
The significance varies by individual and denomination. Some Christians, especially those with a strong interest in biblical prophecy or Jewish-Christian relations, may find it profoundly meaningful, while others might see it as less essential, focusing instead on sites directly associated with Jesus’ life, like the Church of the Holy Sepulchre. Ultimately, the act is often a personal expression of faith, reverence for the site’s historical sanctity, and a way to connect with God in a place of deep spiritual resonance.
Posted on 4/19/25 at 10:29 am to GeauxBurrow312
Aren’t most modern Jews very secular and basically atheists these days? They also tend to be very very progressive
Posted on 4/19/25 at 10:29 am to 1BamaRTR
correct, modern Judaism is really more of a cultural/ethnic group than any sort of legitimate religious dogma.
Posted on 4/19/25 at 10:32 am to GumboPot
They should pray to the God and Father of Jesus Christ. Jesus is not equal to the Father. There is no Trinity. The Holy Spirit is not a person.:
Romans 15:6 – “so that you may glorify the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ with one mind and one voice.”
2 Corinthians 1:3 – “Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies and the God of all comfort.”
Ephesians 1:3 – “Blessed is the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us with every spiritual blessing in the heavens in Christ.”
1 Peter 1:3 – “Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ. Because of his great mercy he has given us new birth into a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead.”
Romans 15:6 – “so that you may glorify the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ with one mind and one voice.”
2 Corinthians 1:3 – “Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies and the God of all comfort.”
Ephesians 1:3 – “Blessed is the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us with every spiritual blessing in the heavens in Christ.”
1 Peter 1:3 – “Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ. Because of his great mercy he has given us new birth into a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead.”
Posted on 4/19/25 at 10:39 am to FriendofBaruch
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Illegal migration is NOT an Islamist activity - it is solely Jewish
It’s also Christian.
All religions are guilty of this.
This is why people get called a Jew hater.
Catholics in our country are just as if not some of the worst offenders when it comes to illegal immigration.
Our worst period was under a damn Catholic President.
This post was edited on 4/19/25 at 10:42 am
Posted on 4/19/25 at 10:41 am to FriendofBaruch
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keeps smooth brains and Scofield Bible devotees in the dark steeped in lies and obfuscation
Posted on 4/19/25 at 11:45 am to Enadious
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They should pray to the God and Father of Jesus Christ. Jesus is not equal to the Father. There is no Trinity. The Holy Spirit is not a person.:
This is true, as Jesus never claimed to be 'equal' with God the Father. In fact, when people tried to worship Him, he chastened them, and subordinated Himself to the The Father.
"In the BEGINNING, was the Word..."beginning" being foundational. What all rational, visionary people can agree upon is that there is one single 'thing' that can and does exist, eternally so. Absolutely so. And that 'thing' is, an *Idea*. If there is nothing tangible, there still exist the 'Idea' of something. Once it's here, it's eternal. Ideas are described with words, therein "The Word" as being the foundational, imaginary blueprint of All That Can Be. Self-Awareness at the fore, as we are proof of that.
The Self-Aware Entity/God ("The I Am", and co-existent with The Word) that then springs from The Word/Blueprint is the Father/God and reflective Creative Source which validates the Truth of The Word, for all Creation thereafter. Such would be the first part of the Holy Trinity. Concurrently derivative of The Father is the Idea of more than One, I.e., "the Firstborn" of Humanity, Jesus Christ, (original mold) and Son of God. The is the second part of the Holy Trinity. Though Jesus in this 'Firstborn' mold capacity would not be equal to God, It/He most certainly is "with God" , and as such, would indeed have due authority therein.
The third aspect of the above two (The Word and The Self-Aware Entity derived from that) is the Holy Spirit. As I understand the theological definition of the Holy Spirit, it is a creative impulse dynamic and 'moving power' which would necessarily and concurrently become existential as a Divine Creative Impetus absolutely affecting the Self-Aware Entity/God as such relates to all of the potential in The Word's Creative Reservoir. Big stuff would necessarily happen given these three 'intangible'/Spiritual aspects of Reality.
Bottom line is that if something (Idea) can exist, and Self Awareness/'Personhood' in a Spiritual and infinite 'form' springs from it, then the dynamic therein (The Holy Spirit) will move such to manifest said potential. As it obviously has. And though from the perspective of the lesser self-aware Beings, the Creation will and must change, and even go away, the Idea, Self-Aware Entity and the dynamic (Holy Spirit of Truth) between those Three will as well. As all are eternal and infinite as a Spiritual Paradigm, and exist concurrently, from beginning to end, as the idea of 'time', does not exist at that level.
The co-existent Holy Trinity:
The Word.
The LOVING Self-Aware Father/God
The Holy Spirit
And Jesus Christ, the 'Firstborn' of the Children of God, and the Truth, and Savior of Humanity, and all potential sophisticated Lifeforms therein.
Philosophical mud on the wall. Back to the plow.
Posted on 4/19/25 at 12:09 pm to Neutral Underground
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I was asking an honest question. So I get accused of hating jews because I asked a question.
Seeking to end further U.S. entanglements in the Middle East is not a form of Jew hatred.
Indeed, it can be reasonably argued that extracting ourselves from the entire region would increase the security of the average Israeli citizen:
This post was edited on 4/19/25 at 12:15 pm
Posted on 4/19/25 at 12:18 pm to GumboPot
The gospel of John, chapters 18 and 19, should be read by every Israel-first mouth breather on this forum. Christ himself emphasizes that the Jews are guilty of a greater sin than even Pilate and the Romans for his crucifixion. And yet many Christians have an adoration for the very people who murdered their supposed savior.
Posted on 4/19/25 at 12:27 pm to GumboPot
Christians have their own Holy Sites in Jerusalem like the Church of the Holy Sepulcre..
Posted on 4/19/25 at 12:36 pm to FriendofBaruch
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Illegal migration is NOT an Islamist activity - it is solely Jewish
Explain the United Kingdom
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