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re: Senator Joe McCarthy Was Correct, Just Too Early

Posted on 7/20/26 at 2:00 pm to
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
117926 posts
Posted on 7/20/26 at 2:00 pm to
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I’d be curious to know what specific lies were hurled at him. Do you have any examples from her book?

Sorry, but my home library is over 3,000 books and they are shelved randomly. Thankfully, there are Kindles now and I've got 4 of those filled up.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
57079 posts
Posted on 7/20/26 at 2:16 pm to
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Joe McCarthy Was Correct, Just Too Early

Joe was not too early. The threat from collectivism was far more then than now. At that time almost every intellectual thought that collectivism was the future. People as diverse as Einstein and Eleanor Roosevelt thought so. Even many capitalists thought socialism was the future.

Now, not even the socialists think socialism is workable. Hardly any of them are lobbying for state control of the means of production. Instead, they are arguing for simple wealth confiscation, blithely unaware that it would lead to the same thing.

I’m not downplaying the threat today; I’m just pointing out that it was even more severe then.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
42133 posts
Posted on 7/20/26 at 2:20 pm to
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Communism will never become mainstream in America because it’s too easy to poke holes in it. There will always be extremists on the left who support it, but the middle 50% will never get on board.


I have my doubts about this
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
57079 posts
Posted on 7/20/26 at 2:23 pm to
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The only thing he was guilty of was not batting 1000.


We’re rewriting history now?

You think he WAS batting 1000?
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
6796 posts
Posted on 7/20/26 at 2:42 pm to
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These DSA activists are seeking to destroy our current form of government as defined by the Constitution. Is that not inherently un-American and therefore incompatible with citizenship and public office?

While I may agree with everything here, being a socialist or communist is not illegal in tUSA.
Posted by Neutral Underground
Member since Mar 2024
3709 posts
Posted on 7/20/26 at 2:56 pm to
Hollywood portrayed McCarthy as being crazy. Seeing Communists everywhere. Even in his sleep. Hollywood gaslighted the American people about McCarthy just like they did about Donald Trump.
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
24603 posts
Posted on 7/20/26 at 3:06 pm to
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Even if I grant the final list claim, your own statement shows he made a baseless claim about there being 57 communists in the state department. Why would he not have just published this list?


Maybe because he didn't have proof???
Tell us you've never known something to be true but couldn't "proove" it.
Posted by Violent Hip Swivel
Member since Aug 2023
9812 posts
Posted on 7/20/26 at 3:56 pm to
Roy Cohn's legacy definitely lives on through Trump, and it's where Trump got his messaging playbook from – never apologize for anything, and instead double down. Seriously, when has Trump ever apologized for anything. "Whatabouts" are the other big part of Trump's messaging playbook. Whatabouts are part of the American life now. It wasn't alwys that way.

Mock a handicapped reporter. Disrespect women and comment on their physica appearance. Post a social media video of the Obamas as apes. Get caught saying "I'm so famous I just grab em by the pussy." Don't apologize. Instead just recruit a bunch of old Clinton skanks and sit them behind a folding table and hold a press conference. "Oh yeah, what about."

Whatabouts are iditotic because they imply that a one wrong makes another wrong okay. It's how children make their point.
This post was edited on 7/20/26 at 3:59 pm
Posted by RohanGonzales
Pronoun: Whatever
Member since Apr 2024
11817 posts
Posted on 7/20/26 at 3:58 pm to
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Get caught saying "I'm so famous I just grab em by the pussy." Don't apologize.


He had nothing to apologize about. Never apologize for TELLING THE TRUTH.

Women are frequently gold diggers. The richest women in the world are gold diggers.
Posted by Violent Hip Swivel
Member since Aug 2023
9812 posts
Posted on 7/20/26 at 4:00 pm to
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He had nothing to apologize about. Never apologize for TELLING THE TRUTH.

Women are frequently gold diggers. The richest women in the world are gold diggers.



You sound like one of them incels I've been reading about in the news lately.

Also, there's no way in hell you have daugthers.
Posted by mauser
Orange Beach
Member since Nov 2008
27394 posts
Posted on 7/20/26 at 4:49 pm to
I don't think they condemn him either. What is interesting is that our spooks were reading coded Soviet messages to American commies and spies, but they wouldn't verify or correct any of McCarthy's accusations because they had to keep the secret that they were reading secret Soviet messages.
Posted by RoyalWe
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2018
5242 posts
Posted on 7/20/26 at 5:46 pm to
Convicted?
Posted by Wraytex
San Antonio - Gonzales
Member since Jun 2020
4231 posts
Posted on 7/20/26 at 5:54 pm to
I’ll take things we already knew for 200….
Posted by Neutral Underground
Member since Mar 2024
3709 posts
Posted on 7/20/26 at 10:07 pm to
Sounds like you have TDS. So, I shouldn't take your opinion seriously.
Posted by PuertoRicanBlaze
Book Board Admin
Member since Apr 2024
7695 posts
Posted on 7/20/26 at 11:59 pm to
Long before my time but holy shite this dude deserves to be exonerated.
Posted by JPinLondon
not in London (currently NW Ohio)
Member since Nov 2006
7880 posts
Posted on 7/21/26 at 4:06 am to
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Mock a handicapped reporter.

You should know this claim is a LIE. A dozen examples of video evidence show he does the same gesture when someone is caught in a lie and thus stammers in response. OR a reporter making a baseless claim that has been repeated often.

The "mocked a reporter's handicap" is as much a lie as "very fine people on both sides" in Charlottesville is false.
Posted by G2160
houston
Member since May 2013
2533 posts
Posted on 7/21/26 at 4:38 am to
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Communism will never become mainstream in America because it’s too easy to poke holes in it. There will always be extremists on the left who support it, but the middle 50% will never get on board.


“The middle 50%” will never get onboard with:
Importing illegals by the tens of millions
Mask mandates
Allowing men in women’s restrooms
State-facilitated/funded sex changes for children
Systemic discrimination against white males
Radical politically weaponized legal system
Propaganda packaged as news or education
Defunding police

No sir, these things the communists fight for could never happen here.
This post was edited on 7/21/26 at 4:44 am
Posted by shinerfan
Duckworld(Earth-616)
Member since Sep 2009
28818 posts
Posted on 7/21/26 at 4:51 am to
Do you believe that his "list" was real? You don't find it odd that anyone who pubicly critiscized him found their way onto it? He was right that there were Communist conspiracies, some run from Moscow and others by our own home-grown idiots but Joseph McCarthy's petty personal lies and vendettas gave Cronkite & Co. grounds to laugh it off. McCarthy is remembered as a lying, mean-spirited little man because that's what he was.
Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
32846 posts
Posted on 7/21/26 at 5:01 am to
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McCarthy is remembered as a lying, mean-spirited little man because that's what he was.


Perfect example of the message getting overshadowed by the narcissism of the messenger.
Posted by LSU0358
Member since Jan 2005
8175 posts
Posted on 7/21/26 at 5:16 am to
McCarthy was a giant piece of crap. While I agree communist should be rooted out at all levels, McCarthy was a drunken jackass that accused people with less than zero proof whatsoever.
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