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re: Sen Bodi White introduces bill to increase St George sales taxes up to 2% more

Posted on 4/2/14 at 3:54 pm to
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 4/2/14 at 3:54 pm to
It's interesting that the same poster in this thread who advocates more local control of schools via a SG school system seems to be praising a state run school system in New Orleans where there is ZERO local control.
Posted by hawkster
Member since Aug 2010
6231 posts
Posted on 4/2/14 at 3:57 pm to
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The school board in Orleans Parish only runs 19 schools in the entire parish while the RSD has 70 schools, almost all of which are publicly financed private charter schools.


So, Russian, if we relate this fact back to your OP, 70 minus 19 equals ..........

















11, right?
Posted by Asgard Device
The Daedalus
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 4/2/14 at 3:58 pm to
Not to mention that the RSD is one of the most mismanaged government entities in the state. It's fraught with corruption and incompetence. I think they're currently spending around $20k per pupil.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 4/2/14 at 3:58 pm to
quote:

It's interesting that the same poster in this thread who advocates more local control of schools via a SG school system seems to be praising a state run school system in New Orleans where there is ZERO local control.


That would be a good topic for another thread.

It's not that I was praising NO schools, I was pointing out how far our schools have sunk under the current regime and the leadership of the EBRPSS.

I was shocked to see that Orleans parish scores were better overall than our scores. Shocked.

Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 4/2/14 at 4:02 pm to
You obviously still have not learned how to provide a link.
Posted by Asgard Device
The Daedalus
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 4/2/14 at 4:10 pm to
quote:

That would be a good topic for another thread.


It's perfectly relevant for this topic, which is why Russian brought it up. It's part of an agenda that the state has for Baton Rouge. New Orleans RSD was no doubt a pilot program with hopes of bringing it statewide.

quote:

I was pointing out how far our schools have sunk under the current regime and the leadership of the EBRPSS.


I was under the impression that they were improving in the area that will become St. George?


Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 4/2/14 at 4:11 pm to
For the second time


LINK
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36140 posts
Posted on 4/2/14 at 4:14 pm to
quote:

It's perfectly relevant for this topic, which is why Russian brought it up. It's part of an agenda that the state has for Baton Rouge. New Orleans RSD was no doubt a pilot program with hopes of bringing it statewide.


Then he should edit the title (as some here already suggested).

quote:

I was under the impression that they were improving in the area that will become St. George?


I don't know where you got your information, but the information I posted shows that Orleans passed up EBR Parish schools as a whole. Now maybe SG area schools are doing better, I hope they are.
Posted by hawkster
Member since Aug 2010
6231 posts
Posted on 4/2/14 at 4:16 pm to
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It's perfectly relevant for this topic, which is why Russian brought it up.


So, a comparison of Baton Rouge and New Orleans schools is perfectly relevant for a discussion on whether a legislative act will or will not raise sales taxes in a proposed new municipality.

That's quite the stretch to meet the "perfectly relevant" standard. But hey when 9+2-2=11, I guess anything goes.
Posted by Asgard Device
The Daedalus
Member since Apr 2011
11562 posts
Posted on 4/2/14 at 4:17 pm to
quote:

Now maybe SG area schools are doing better, I hope they are


No, you don't.
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
25389 posts
Posted on 4/2/14 at 4:18 pm to
Does someone have a link that backs up the outrageous interpretation of this proposal that would raise sales taxes to 11%?

This is the link to the bill. LINK

Where does it propose that taxes be raised to 11% or raised at all?

Is that just an interpretation of the language around a continued collection of 2% sales taxes levied by the parish governing body within the bill? If so.....the thread title is dishonest and incorrect.

The article linked in the OP does not appear draw the OP's conclusion that sales taxes would be hiked by 2% to an 11% rate either.
This post was edited on 4/2/14 at 4:37 pm
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36140 posts
Posted on 4/2/14 at 4:21 pm to
quote:

Does someone have a link that backs up the outrageous interpretation of this proposal that would raise sales taxes to 11%


I'm going to help Russian here and paraphrase his style,

If you are too lazy to look it up, I can't help you. Go find it yourself, I've got better things to do.

In other words (my words), he can't.
Posted by Asgard Device
The Daedalus
Member since Apr 2011
11562 posts
Posted on 4/2/14 at 4:21 pm to
quote:

Does someone have a link that backs up the outrageous interpretation of this proposal that would raise sales taxes to 11%?



You have to wait until they declare a state of emergency in EBR before you can find out what's really in the bill. That part of the language throws me for a loop because then you have to start digging up Louisiana constitutional law.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36140 posts
Posted on 4/2/14 at 4:23 pm to
quote:

No, you don't.


I don't?

It would save my family a lot of money if the public school system was better.
Posted by sec13rowBBseat28
St George, LA
Member since Aug 2006
15388 posts
Posted on 4/2/14 at 4:24 pm to
quote:

the thread title is dishonest and incorrect.

worth repeating
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
25389 posts
Posted on 4/2/14 at 4:25 pm to
I would like to know what exactly the OP interpreted as a tax hike in the bill's language.

What in the proposal backs the thread title that there is a tax hike within St George?
This post was edited on 4/2/14 at 4:27 pm
Posted by hawkster
Member since Aug 2010
6231 posts
Posted on 4/2/14 at 4:32 pm to
quote:

would like to know what exactly the OP interpreted as a tax hike in the bill's language.

What in the proposal backs the thread title that there is a tax hike within St George?


In my opinion, Russian's vile hatred for Bodi White and obsession with SG caused him to hallucinate when he finally got access to White's SG legislation. And apparently, he is still suffering from the ailment.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56645 posts
Posted on 4/2/14 at 4:33 pm to
quote:

Is that just an interpretation of a continued collection of 2% sales taxes levied by the parish governing body within the bill? If so.....the thread title is dishonest and incorrect.



It was definitely incorrect.

Russian hasn't admitted to being dishonest yet...but he has kind of hinted at it by thanking people for bumping the thread. You would think he would be embarrassed for being this wrong, but instead, he seems happy to continue the spread of this misinformation.

On the other hand, perhaps he is just wrong. He has stated that he has only been wrong twice and refuses to admit he was wrong here. So, maybe it's just his narcissistic tendencies that we are seeing.
This post was edited on 4/2/14 at 4:35 pm
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11486 posts
Posted on 4/2/14 at 4:34 pm to
quote:

The whole St. George thing is really a shame. It shows just how desperate the functional middle class of Baton Rouge is for decent schools.


Damn. Truth right there.

It also shows how desparate the Baton Rouge elitist and liberals are for entertainment and power. They want to be some popular city so badly. Honestly, the functional middle class could not care any less about the baton rouge cocktail circuit.
Posted by BR Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2004
4157 posts
Posted on 4/2/14 at 4:34 pm to
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You have to wait until they declare a state of emergency in EBR before you can find out what's really in the bill. That part of the language throws me for a loop because then you have to start digging up Louisiana constitutional law.


Nope. They are not going to "declare a state of emergency"at some point. The bill states that a state of emergency will be created by the incorporation St. George in that without a legislative vehicle such as this bill, there will be no mechanism for the current 2% sales tax to continue to be levied on the new city. This is not some strange plot to usurp power. It is a necessary step to provide for an orderly transition in governance should St. George in fact become incorporated through a vote of its residents.

The "state of emergency" language allows for the establishment of a taxing authority outside the normal governmental bodies simply because they won't exist yet. It's not nefarious. It's not conspiratorial. It's responsible.

If this bill or one similar does not pass, then if St. George is incorporated there will be a period where there is no governing authority or taxing authority for the city of St George. The Parish authority to levy the 2% sales tax dies with the effective date of the incorporation.
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