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re: Seems one party roundly supports mail in voting and one party opposes

Posted on 4/23/20 at 5:03 pm to
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
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Posted on 4/23/20 at 5:03 pm to
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Now we have to argue which method(s) of election manipulation are easier?
I'd hope not.

Is it generally easier to steal while being observed or while being unobserved.

Do we really need to argue that?

Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 4/23/20 at 5:08 pm to
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I don't even understand the point of this sidetrack, though.


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Many pastors push R candidates, paid (tithes?) or not.


Why not? You are the one that did the sidetracking.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29055 posts
Posted on 4/23/20 at 5:08 pm to
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Obama is the reason for Trump.
I don't doubt that.
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Obama flat out sucked.
In what way(s) was your life worse in 2016 than it was in 2008?
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Why can't dumb Liberals understand that ?
I'm just trying to understand what Obama has to do with anything in 2020.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 4/23/20 at 5:08 pm to
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So simple to assume that your "team" plays fair at all times, isn't it?
Did I make that claim?
That's kind of what this whole thread is about, isn't it?
You laughed at the suggestion that a purge of voter rolls could have nefarious intent.
As I said pages ago, the SAME action is either noble or evil incarnate, dependent upon the color of your jersey.

It is ridiculous. MOST actions in this area have good intentions ... AND can be abused if taken to extemes.
This post was edited on 4/23/20 at 5:17 pm
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29055 posts
Posted on 4/23/20 at 5:10 pm to
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Is it generally easier to steal while being observed or while being unobserved.

Do we really need to argue that?
No, we can just leave it at manipulating elections is bad, and we should eliminate as many methods of doing so as we can.
Posted by 93and99
Dayton , Oh / Allentown , Pa
Member since Dec 2018
14400 posts
Posted on 4/23/20 at 5:10 pm to
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In what way(s) was your life worse in 2016 than it was in 2008?





Don't you have your years backwards ?
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29055 posts
Posted on 4/23/20 at 5:12 pm to
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Why not? You are the one that did the sidetracking.
No, Jbird did. I just responded to his question about ministers being paid to push candidates. Should have been obvious from the post you quoted.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 4/23/20 at 5:15 pm to
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In what way(s) was your life worse in 2016 than it was in 2008?
Don't you have your years backwards ?
Good Lord.

He was responding to “Obama sucked.”

If Obama was the complete evil failure that has been portrayed here, everyone should be able to explain why their personal lives were worse after eight years of his administration. Pretty simple concept.

I did not like Obama and disagreed with him on FAR more policies than I agreed, but I did just fine between 2008 and 2016.
This post was edited on 4/23/20 at 5:38 pm
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29055 posts
Posted on 4/23/20 at 5:15 pm to
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Don't you have your years backwards ?
No, I don't.

The guy said "Obama flat out sucked", so I asked how his life was worse in 2016 (at the end of Obama's terms) vs 2008 (at the beginning). In other words, how did Obama's suckiness impact his life negatively?

If you don't understand that, maybe your fricking head is on backwards.
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 4/23/20 at 5:17 pm to
Heck, even I got that one.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 4/23/20 at 5:18 pm to
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Heck, even I got that one.
Well, THAT proves how simple it was.

//jk//
Posted by TrueTiger
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Member since Sep 2004
80260 posts
Posted on 4/23/20 at 5:20 pm to
it is very simple

universal suffrage tilts the voting pool toward the weak minded

if you are a nefarious politician, which group of voters are easier for you to fool?

smart ones,

or dumb ones?
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135735 posts
Posted on 4/23/20 at 5:31 pm to
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No, we can just leave it at manipulating elections is bad, and we should eliminate as many methods of doing so as we can.
100%.
Absolutely!

Which presumably is the source of both of our reservations re: mail-in balloting.
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 4/23/20 at 5:31 pm to
Posted by 93and99
Dayton , Oh / Allentown , Pa
Member since Dec 2018
14400 posts
Posted on 4/23/20 at 5:34 pm to
I will go slow for you , since you are to partisan or you needed the handout to understand why Obama sucked.

Obamacare ruined employer provided healthcare for one of my brothers and MILLIONS of others.

He forced people to buy something or pay a tax. Name another president that did that.

He went on an apology tour , lessened restrictions on food stamps twice , in 2009 and 2012. That's why he is known as the food stamp president.

He never did anything for working people , he only took their healthcare away and provided more freebies for the filth that voted for him.

The idiot also said he couldn't wave a magic wand and make jobs come back.

Trump has made him look so bad on that.

By the way , you got lost along the way. I am the one who said Obama sucked and the one who said you had your years messed up.

Every working person's life became better in Jan 2017 than in Jan 2009.

I guess your fricking head is on backwards Liberal filth.

Posted by 93and99
Dayton , Oh / Allentown , Pa
Member since Dec 2018
14400 posts
Posted on 4/23/20 at 5:43 pm to
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AggieHank86



I see you have a new lover.

Does he know about the incest in your family ?
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29055 posts
Posted on 4/23/20 at 5:57 pm to
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I will go slow for you , since you are to partisan or you needed the handout to understand why Obama sucked.

Obamacare ruined employer provided healthcare for one of my brothers and MILLIONS of others.

He forced people to buy something or pay a tax. Name another president that did that.

He went on an apology tour , lessened restrictions on food stamps twice , in 2009 and 2012. That's why he is known as the food stamp president.

He never did anything for working people , he only took their healthcare away and provided more freebies for the filth that voted for him.

The idiot also said he couldn't wave a magic wand and make jobs come back.

Trump has made him look so bad on that.

In what way(s) was your life worse in 2016 than in 2008?
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By the way , you got lost along the way. I am the one who said Obama sucked and the one who said you had your years messed up.
Sorry. I guess it didn't seem possible to me that the person to whom the question was directed could have possibly fricked up the response so badly.
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Every working person's life became better in Jan 2017 than in Jan 2009.
I'm going to need a bit more evidence for that claim than just your opinion. At least an anecdote from your own life would be better than just a claim.
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I guess your fricking head is on backwards Liberal filth.
I must admit, some of the shite said around here can make your head spin.
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