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re: Seems one party roundly supports mail in voting and one party opposes
Posted on 4/23/20 at 1:33 pm to AggieHank86
Posted on 4/23/20 at 1:33 pm to AggieHank86
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One of many sad elements of the current state of American politics is that reasoned compromise is harder to achieve. Fifty years ago, The Speaker and the Minority Leader would sit down over drinks and find a compromise that met the goals of one side while addressing the concerns of the other.
Is this an admirable objective if one side's underlying motives are no longer innocuous? Obviously, both "sides" now seem to be working under such perception. What if one is right?
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Posted on 4/23/20 at 1:34 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:I love Sowell. I have four of his more-recent books on my iPad and a couple of older ones in hard copy. Black Rednecks is probably my favorite.
hank, do you read sowell, or is he not intellectual enough for you?
Why?
Posted on 4/23/20 at 1:37 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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Is there a philosophically innocuous reason for this dichotomy? If so tell me what it would be?
Don't you know?
1 party doesn't care who gets to vote. They don't care if they are non-citizens, dead people, or even made up people.
The other party believes in 1 person 1 vote, and that person must be a citizen, plus that person must be alive!
Posted on 4/23/20 at 1:38 pm to CelticDog
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that changes if you dont have to wait on line after working and making dinner.
Democrats don't work and Republicans do.
We take the time to vote in person , you have far more free time , why is it an issue , laziness ?
Posted on 4/23/20 at 1:43 pm to AggieHank86
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Those with more skin in any game always seem to show the most interest IN that game.
So you believes this leans greater toward one party than the other? Why would that be specifically?
Posted on 4/23/20 at 1:47 pm to Korkstand
quote:I'm certainly biased. I provided my biased opinion.
Such an unbiased take.
Are you claiming a position of neutrality? If so, you're a liar.
Have a nice day.
Posted on 4/23/20 at 1:51 pm to roadGator
quote:I think it's obvious that higher turnout favors dems, and VbM could significantly increase turnout. There is no need or reason to assume that the goal is fraud.
Do you have a take with less bias?
How do you feel about VbM and the possibility of voter fraud and ballot harvesting?
IMO it is equally bad to assume dems want VbM to commit voter fraud as it is to assume repubs don't want it in order to suppress dem votes.
I think it obvious that we should do whatever possible to eliminate voter fraud. I think it is also obvious that we should do what we can to make sure as many voices are heard as possible. Many will disagree with that second statement, most likely on the grounds that we should only listen to the voices that put forth enough effort to be heard. And that makes a lot of sense.
But the counter to that is it's relatively easy to make people feel disenfranchised even if you aren't outright doing it, and that can be nearly as effective.
It's easy to read nefarious intent into both sides. Obviously the dems could possibly think VbM is a ripe opportunity to commit fraud. But then a whole lot of people on the right who have a problem with VbM also have a problem with busing people to the polls. Why on earth would you have a problem with that?
Posted on 4/23/20 at 1:53 pm to oogabooga68
quote:I guess you don't see the irony in your calling me biased?
The irony lies with the PERSON posting the message complaining about "bias"....
Posted on 4/23/20 at 1:53 pm to FooManChoo
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I'm certainly biased. I provided my biased opinion.
quote:I only claim to try.
Are you claiming a position of neutrality? If so, you're a liar.
quote:Same to you!
Have a nice day.
Posted on 4/23/20 at 1:59 pm to Korkstand
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But the counter to that is it's relatively easy to make people feel disenfranchised even if you aren't outright doing it, and that can be nearly as effective.
Posted on 4/23/20 at 2:03 pm to Korkstand
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But the counter to that is it's relatively easy to make people feel disenfranchised even if you aren't outright doing it, and that can be nearly as effective.
Can you flesh this out for us a bit more? How is that relatively easy to do exactly?
Posted on 4/23/20 at 2:04 pm to FooManChoo
the left wants more people to vote the right wants less so they have a chance.
Posted on 4/23/20 at 2:05 pm to 56lsu
quote:bullshite.
the left wants more people to vote the right wants less so they have a chance.
Posted on 4/23/20 at 2:07 pm to Korkstand
Why would I have a problem with dems busing people to the polls?
Is busing an inducement in a way or not?
Does the bus have an operative instructing people about how to vote?
Yeah. I have some issues with bussing.
By any means necessary wasn’t a lie. We can all agree about that now.
Is busing an inducement in a way or not?
Does the bus have an operative instructing people about how to vote?
Yeah. I have some issues with bussing.
By any means necessary wasn’t a lie. We can all agree about that now.
This post was edited on 4/23/20 at 2:11 pm
Posted on 4/23/20 at 2:10 pm to Jbird
your own president said that. they know the more that vote the smaller their chances are. you can b/s all you want.
Posted on 4/23/20 at 2:12 pm to 56lsu
So, why would you think the more disinclined lean more democrat?
Posted on 4/23/20 at 2:13 pm to Y.A. Tittle
quote:You and I might be able to have an interesting discussion on this topic, but the stink-bombs from the peanut gallery tend to interfere.quote:So you believes this leans greater toward one party than the other? Why would that be specifically?
Those with more skin in any game always seem to show the most interest IN that game.
Yes, I do think that the Right in America (on average) tends to have more skin in the political game, so they tend to have a broader share of their folks who would qualify as “engaged” ... and that does tend to be reflected in higher voter participation.
Your thoughts?.
This post was edited on 4/23/20 at 2:13 pm
Posted on 4/23/20 at 2:17 pm to Y.A. Tittle
Another thread whining about something.
Posted on 4/23/20 at 2:18 pm to AggieHank86
I don't necessarily equate "engagement" with "skin in the game," but I think everyone generally has the same relative amount of skin in the game, or at least should, unless they are on the nefarious end of something.
Posted on 4/23/20 at 2:19 pm to Lsuismyfav
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Lsuismyfav
The hell?
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