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re: Seems one party roundly supports mail in voting and one party opposes
Posted on 4/23/20 at 12:59 pm to Brazos
Posted on 4/23/20 at 12:59 pm to Brazos
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The Democratic Party doesn’t have one ounce of compassion. Killing babies, slavery, intentionally keeping people of color in poverty are just a few examples.
The argument from the left is minorities simply are too downtrodden to get any form of ID. Wouldn't the Ds have fixed this after 50+ years of having them as a solid voter base? That's a very damning result of their effectiveness for their constituents.
Or perhaps they know showing an ID will expose massive amounts of previous voter fraud from Post-ID voter stats.
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Posted on 4/23/20 at 1:03 pm to Y.A. Tittle
The Left is more concerned about assuring that every citizen can exercise the franchise, and the Right is more concerned about potential fraud arising from too-lax standards.
I doubt that anyone really debates these truisms.
The only real difference is that each side attributes ill motives to the other, while draping itself in a mantle of righteousness. Further, each tends to overstate the valid, underlying basis for its position and to minimize the valid, underlying concerns of the other side.
I doubt that anyone really debates these truisms.
The only real difference is that each side attributes ill motives to the other, while draping itself in a mantle of righteousness. Further, each tends to overstate the valid, underlying basis for its position and to minimize the valid, underlying concerns of the other side.
This post was edited on 4/23/20 at 1:06 pm
Posted on 4/23/20 at 1:07 pm to AggieHank86
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The Left is more concerned about assuring that every citizen can exercise the franchise, and the Right is more concerned about potential fraud arising from too-lax standards.
Are there diametric benefits to each position with regard to the resepctive parties and, if so, why? Also, is it not possible to equally desire both objectives, or does one always have to be greater than the other?
Posted on 4/23/20 at 1:07 pm to Y.A. Tittle
if everyone votes dems win.
gop strategy is to shorten voting windows and have few polling places in heavy dem areas.
theres nothing else going on.
if mail in is allowed voting will top 85%.
in all general elections rich people vote 85%.
poor, 50%.
that changes if you dont have to wait on line after working and making dinner.
gop strategy is to shorten voting windows and have few polling places in heavy dem areas.
theres nothing else going on.
if mail in is allowed voting will top 85%.
in all general elections rich people vote 85%.
poor, 50%.
that changes if you dont have to wait on line after working and making dinner.
Posted on 4/23/20 at 1:08 pm to CelticDog
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if everyone votes dems win.
Why is this, and way is it seemingly easier to "suppress" democratic votes than it is republican?
Posted on 4/23/20 at 1:09 pm to CelticDog
quote:
if everyone votes dems win.
gop strategy is to shorten voting windows and have few polling places in heavy dem areas.
Posted on 4/23/20 at 1:13 pm to FooManChoo
quote:Such an unbiased take.
The left wants more opportunity for voter fraud couched in the auspices of social justice and safety. The right simply wants to limit opportunities for voter fraud.
Posted on 4/23/20 at 1:17 pm to CelticDog
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if everyone votes dems win.
At least you aholes are finally admitting (accidentally) that you are FOR illegals being allowed the right to vote....you're making progress!
Posted on 4/23/20 at 1:17 pm to Korkstand
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Such an unbiased take
Please look up the word "irony".
Posted on 4/23/20 at 1:18 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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way is it seemingly easier to "suppress" democratic votes than it is republican?
koch brothers financed state legislature elections.
states with gop legislatures shortened the window.
Posted on 4/23/20 at 1:18 pm to Y.A. Tittle
Same reason the left wants you to have an ID for everything but voting:
They want to cheat.
End. Of. Story.
They want to cheat.
End. Of. Story.
Posted on 4/23/20 at 1:18 pm to CelticDog
Why do the disinterested lean more democrat than rebulican?
Posted on 4/23/20 at 1:19 pm to CelticDog
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koch brothers financed state legislature elections. states with gop legislatures shortened the window.
Now try this:
George Soros financed state legislature elections.
states with Dem legislatures want illegals to vote.
Posted on 4/23/20 at 1:19 pm to Korkstand
Do you have a take with less bias?
How do you feel about VbM and the possibility of voter fraud and ballot harvesting?
How do you feel about VbM and the possibility of voter fraud and ballot harvesting?
Posted on 4/23/20 at 1:21 pm to oogabooga68
quote:What could possibly be ironic considering I have not yet expressed a view?
Please look up the word "irony".
Posted on 4/23/20 at 1:23 pm to Korkstand
The irony lies with the PERSON posting the message complaining about "bias"....
Posted on 4/23/20 at 1:26 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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Is there a philosophically innocuous reason for this dichotomy?
one party wants to be able to manufacture a winner in the election and will use non sequitur arguments to support it
Posted on 4/23/20 at 1:28 pm to Y.A. Tittle
quote:It is certainly true to say that taking either position to its extreme will provide a benefit to one party or the other.quote:Are there diametric benefits to each position with regard to the resepctive parties and, if so, why? Also, is it not possible to equally desire both objectives, or does one always have to be greater than the other?
The Left is more concerned about assuring that every citizen can exercise the franchise, and the Right is more concerned about potential fraud arising from too-lax standards.
One of many sad elements of the current state of American politics is that reasoned compromise is harder to achieve. Fifty years ago, The Speaker and the Minority Leader would sit down over drinks and find a compromise that met the goals of one side while addressing the concerns of the other.
Now, if the GOP leadership sat down with Pelosi and Schiff in such a setting, the blowhards from both sides would eviscerate them all before the end of that day’s news cycle.
“Disenfranchisement!”
vs
“Vote Buying and Illegals Voting!”
Those seem to be the only PC positions.
This post was edited on 4/23/20 at 1:30 pm
Posted on 4/23/20 at 1:31 pm to Y.A. Tittle
quote:Those with more skin in any game always seem to show the most interest IN that game.
Why do the disinterested lean more democrat than rebulican?
Posted on 4/23/20 at 1:32 pm to AggieHank86
hank, do you read sowell, or is he not intellectual enough for you?
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