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re: Sea mines...What can be done about them?
Posted on 4/14/26 at 7:30 am to LucyLoretta
Posted on 4/14/26 at 7:30 am to LucyLoretta
Is this gonna be like the oil spill where if you invent something you get rich
What if we dropped a bunch of nutria rats into the straight
What if we dropped a bunch of nutria rats into the straight
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Posted on 4/14/26 at 7:37 am to LucyLoretta
There are no sea mines
Posted on 4/14/26 at 7:56 am to SundayFunday
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There are no sea mines
i believe this also
Posted on 4/14/26 at 8:09 am to LucyLoretta
Empty every vessel trying to do business with Iran despite the blockade and run them through there until it is empty of mines.
Posted on 4/14/26 at 8:41 am to LucyLoretta
Sea Bees ?
Posted on 4/14/26 at 8:43 am to LucyLoretta
Minesweepers are the USA and UKs speciality.
Posted on 4/14/26 at 8:44 am to Knight of Old
I have heard that the actual quote was:
"Damn!!! Torpedoes!!! FuLL sPeEd aHeAd!!!"
"Damn!!! Torpedoes!!! FuLL sPeEd aHeAd!!!"
Posted on 4/14/26 at 8:45 am to LucyLoretta
O watched this video a couple weeks ago. It's informative.
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This video provides a detailed breakdown of the US Navy's mine-clearing operations in the Strait of Hormuz, a vital and high-stakes maritime corridor. Due to Iran's large stockpile of naval mines, the US Navy must employ complex, methodical strategies to ensure the safety of global oil supplies.
Key takeaways include:
The Threat: Naval mines are inexpensive, difficult to detect, and can be deployed rapidly by small boats or converted civilian vessels, effectively paralyzing shipping lanes that are only two miles wide in each direction (0:00-1:56).
Mine-Clearing Platforms:
*Avenger-class ships:* These vessels use specialized hulls to minimize magnetic signatures and tow sonar systems to map the seabed for hidden threats (2:30-3:25).
Remotely Operated Vehicles (ROVs): Used to investigate sonar contacts and place small explosive charges to neutralize confirmed mines safely (3:52-4:49).
*MH-53E Sea Dragon helicopters:* These massive aircraft fly low and slow, towing equipment that either detects mines or tricks them into detonating by mimicking the acoustic and magnetic signatures of large ships (5:01-6:26).
Combat Environment Challenges: Operating in the Strait of Hormuz is dangerous because clearance vessels must move slowly and predictably, making them vulnerable to Iranian fast attack boats (6:57-7:50).
Strategic Response: To mitigate risks, the US has engaged in preemptive strikes against Iranian mine-laying boats and storage facilities to cut off the threat at its source (8:01-8:54).
Establishing Safe Corridors: Rather than clearing entire areas, the objective is to establish and maintain a narrow, monitored 'safe corridor' for commercial vessels to transit under escort (10:05-11:45).
Ultimately, the video emphasizes that mine clearing is a high-precision, labor-intensive process that requires navigating extreme tension between operational capabilities and the contested reality of one of the world's most critical waterways
Posted on 4/14/26 at 8:47 am to LucyLoretta
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The U.S. Navy is transitioning its mine countermeasures force from aging Avenger-class wooden minesweepers to Independence-class Littoral Combat Ships (LCS) equipped with modern, autonomous, and unmanned systems. While four Avenger-class ships were decommissioned in 2025/2026, some remaining Avenger-class vessels are still forward-deployed in Japan (7th Fleet), and some LCS units are in the Middle East.
Navy Times
Key U.S. Minesweeper Details:
Avenger-Class (MCM): These are the remaining purpose-built minesweepers. They feature fiberglass-sheathed wooden hulls to minimize magnetic signatures and improve durability against blasts. They are designed to find, classify, and destroy moored and bottom mines, as detailed on the U.S. Navy Site.
Recent Decommissioning: Several Avenger-class ships (USS Devastator, Dextrous, Gladiator, Sentry) were retired in 2025/2026 after over 30 years of service.
The New Approach (LCS): The Navy is shifting to Independence-class LCS ships (such as USS Tulsa, USS Santa Barbara, and USS Canberra) that carry containerized MCM mission packages, according to The War Zone. Unlike the manned, wood-hull ships that enter the minefield, these, as reported by Navy Times, often stand outside the threat zone while deploying unmanned undersea and surface vehicles, notes Navy Times.
Navy Times
As of early 2026, the shift to these new systems comes amid high tensions in the Middle East, with some concerns about the readiness of the new technology to replace the old, as discussed on The War Zone and Navy Times.
Posted on 4/14/26 at 8:48 am to cajunangelle
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Minesweepers are the USA and UKs speciality.
UK not so much these days. They barely have a navy fleet that can put to Sea.
Posted on 4/14/26 at 9:19 am to LucyLoretta
Navy Seals are trained for this, they go through BUDS, Basic Underwater Demolition/ S-SEAL training.
Posted on 4/14/26 at 9:26 am to dek81572
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Navy Seals are trained for this, they go through BUDS, Basic Underwater Demolition/ S-SEAL training.
True, but SEALs aren't the so called specialist....
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Current Role of SEALs vs. Specialized Mine ExpertsToday,
Navy Explosive Ordnance Disposal (EOD) technicians are the primary specialists for rendering safe, disarming, or precisely neutralizing sea mines, torpedoes, and other underwater ordnance. EOD personnel:Train extensively in underwater mine countermeasures (UMCM).
Use diving gear, robotics (e.g., unmanned underwater vehicles), and techniques to detect, identify, and dispose of mines.
Support fleet operations, special forces, and exercises involving live or inert mines.
navy.com
SEALs focus more on direct action, reconnaissance, and demolition in contested environments. They can:Locate and mark mines during beach or harbor surveys.
Use explosives to breach or destroy minefields/obstacles when needed.
Operate in support of or alongside EOD teams (EOD often integrates with Naval Special Warfare).
SEALs are not the go-to force for the intricate, step-by-step disarming of sophisticated modern naval mines—that's EOD's core expertise. However, there is overlap: some EOD operators support SEAL missions, and both groups train in demanding diving and tactical skills
Posted on 4/14/26 at 9:43 am to Nosevens
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Declare that area as a shrimp nursery and put up some no trawling signs in Chinese
Posted on 4/14/26 at 2:22 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
Okay. I talked to my son. He says:
No dolphins. Not allowed.
They have different ways of detecting and detonating mines. Most of the mine sweepers have been taken out of service, although not all. He did not say whether they were using them or not.
This is a very scary situation and the folks in the Straight of Hormuz believe there are a lot of mines out there.
He has spoken to the people that are over there working on the mine problem, and cannot talk about mission sensitive information.
No dolphins. Not allowed.
They have different ways of detecting and detonating mines. Most of the mine sweepers have been taken out of service, although not all. He did not say whether they were using them or not.
This is a very scary situation and the folks in the Straight of Hormuz believe there are a lot of mines out there.
He has spoken to the people that are over there working on the mine problem, and cannot talk about mission sensitive information.
Posted on 4/14/26 at 2:43 pm to LucyLoretta
There aren't any. Iran does not have the technology for that shite lol they still have 90s grade weapons trying to build modern weapons
Posted on 4/14/26 at 3:51 pm to FLTech
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There aren't any. Iran does not have the technology for that shite lol they still have 90s grade weapons trying to build modern weapons
No. Mines have been around forever.
Posted on 4/14/26 at 3:54 pm to AlterEd
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The Navy is good at this
FOX had some chairman on the other day and he was talking about how the Navy at one point even trained dolphins for exactly this. Thought that was pretty cool.
Posted on 4/14/26 at 4:02 pm to LucyLoretta
As the Navy has been dealing with mines for over 100 years, I think it’ll be fine.
We even train dolphins to find them.
We even train dolphins to find them.
Posted on 4/14/26 at 4:10 pm to TFH
the sea bottom off of Saudi and Kuwait is not all that deep and flat generally. Be easy to drag a chain with large trawl boards to sweep the bottom, except around the islands where a few reefs exist.
A bigger hazard than mines is the sea snakes. No antidote, bite yer dead. They do have small mouths and a chubby diver might be okey. Used to see them all the time fishing.
A bigger hazard than mines is the sea snakes. No antidote, bite yer dead. They do have small mouths and a chubby diver might be okey. Used to see them all the time fishing.
Posted on 4/14/26 at 4:11 pm to Jax-Tiger
Lol ok
This post was edited on 4/14/26 at 4:13 pm
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