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re: SCOTUS says "No Thanks" to Kim Davis and "Yes" to same sex marriage.
Posted on 11/10/25 at 11:07 pm to Dex Morgan
Posted on 11/10/25 at 11:07 pm to Dex Morgan
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So only poking around in the dark for the fundamentalist... How depressing.
I’m Catholic. I’m sorry that the only women you seem to be able to score with are anal sluts. I’ll keep you in my thoughts and prayers.
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Posted on 11/10/25 at 11:09 pm to SlowFlowPro
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You're calling me citing SDP as the backbone of Loving "ridiculous" and "misapplied",
So you are illiterate.
I did no such thing. I said it was misapplied obgerfell.
Also, there were 4 justices who disagreed with this asinine trash, how many were calling for the overturn of loving.
Loving is used as a crutch in this argument by people trying to win over emotions by comparing race to who you want to frick.
Posted on 11/10/25 at 11:49 pm to PrattvilleTiger
quote:Not explicitly, but since He is God, He didn't go against the moral law which forbade it.
I never recall Jesus mentioning homosexuality. Did he?
That, and He upheld marriage as being between a man and a woman from creation.
Also, He said that if you even lust in your heart after someone who isn't your spouse, you've committed adultery according to the moral law.
Homosexuals both lust in their hearts and commit sexual immorality outside the confines of marriage, which is only legitimate between a man and a woman, so there is no way a homosexual can engage in the act of homosexual sex without sinning.
quote:Not really.
And also, the Bible just about condemns any and everything at different points.
quote:Dietary laws were part of the ceremonial law, intended to keep Israel separate from the nations around them and remind them that they belong to God. Such distinctions passed away with Jesus, when He opened up salvation to even the Gentile nations.
Such as eating pork and shellfish.
quote:Yes, that's part of the 4th commandment. God has set aside one day in seven for Himself for us to worship Him.
And working on Sundays.
quote:Correct. Though Jesus told us to be perfect as even our Father in Heaven is perfect, we still fall short. That's why we need the blood of Christ shed for the forgiveness of our sins.
I don't see every rule being followed today that is in the Bible.
quote:Yes, especially since it typically involves lust.
Isn't masturbation also considered a sin? Isn't probably 99% of humans guilty of that?
I hope you aren't arguing that because we can't keep the law perfectly, that we aren't supposed to obey Christ. Are you arguing for antinomianism?
Posted on 11/10/25 at 11:53 pm to SOSFAN
quote:I'll help you out by quoting the chapter through the verses you mentioned:quote:That's a big negative but kudos on the attempt
You do realize that command was for the priests of Israel, only, right? That command wasn't given to all people.
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And the Lord said to Moses, “Speak to the priests, the sons of Aaron, and say to them, No one shall make himself unclean for the dead among his people, 2 except for his closest relatives, his mother, his father, his son, his daughter, his brother, 3 or his virgin sister (who is near to him because she has had no husband; for her he may make himself unclean). 4 He shall not make himself unclean as a husband among his people and so profane himself. 5 They shall not make bald patches on their heads, nor shave off the edges of their beards, nor make any cuts on their body. 6 They shall be holy to their God and not profane the name of their God. For they offer the Lord's food offerings, the bread of their God; therefore they shall be holy. 7 They shall not marry a prostitute or a woman who has been defiled, neither shall they marry a woman divorced from her husband, for the priest is holy to his God. 8 You shall sanctify him, for he offers the bread of your God. He shall be holy to you, for I, the Lord, who sanctify you, am holy. 9 And the daughter of any priest, if she profanes herself by whoring, profanes her father; she shall be burned with fire.
10 “The priest who is chief among his brothers, on whose head the anointing oil is poured and who has been consecrated to wear the garments, shall not let the hair of his head hang loose nor tear his clothes. 11 He shall not go in to any dead bodies nor make himself unclean, even for his father or for his mother. 12 He shall not go out of the sanctuary, lest he profane the sanctuary of his God, for the consecration of the anointing oil of his God is on him: I am the Lord. 13 And he shall take a wife in her virginity. 14 A widow, or a divorced woman, or a woman who has been defiled, or a prostitute, these he shall not marry. But he shall take as his wife a virgin of his own people, 15 that he may not profane his offspring among his people, for I am the Lord who sanctifies him.”
Posted on 11/11/25 at 12:29 am to Snipe
Bro we don’t care about your personal or religious beliefs. Hold all that hate in your heart if you wish. The moment you try to legislate your hate against people is when there’s gonna be a problem.
And if the worst you can say about someone is that their worst sin is a sin that’s rooted in love for another “precious child of god”, then that’s not a terrible place to be in when the time comes.
And if the worst you can say about someone is that their worst sin is a sin that’s rooted in love for another “precious child of god”, then that’s not a terrible place to be in when the time comes.
Posted on 11/11/25 at 1:09 am to FooManChoo
The Bible -- and every other religious text -- has absolutely zero to do with this. The highest authority in our government is the Constitution.
And the Constitution provides for equality for all persons.
Not all persons, except gays. (Or blacks, women, disabled, or other minority group).
All persons.
And the Constitution provides for equality for all persons.
Not all persons, except gays. (Or blacks, women, disabled, or other minority group).
All persons.
Posted on 11/11/25 at 1:30 am to retired_tiger
quote:The Bible is God's revelation to mankind and provides us understanding of what God requires of us. We have an obligation to God above government.
The Bible -- and every other religious text -- has absolutely zero to do with this.
quote:Jesus Christ is King of kings regardless of what our Constitution says.
The highest authority in our government is the Constitution
quote:And the Constitution is wrong to tolerate homosexual marriages, if it indeed does. It needs to be changed.
And the Constitution provides for equality for all persons.
Not all persons, except gays. (Or blacks, women, disabled, or other minority group).
All persons.
Posted on 11/11/25 at 1:44 am to FooManChoo
You cite the Bible is no different than if others would cite the Quran, Tanakh, Tao Te Ching, or Bhagavad Gita.
Religion is fine for you, and you are welcome to follow it as you deem appropriate.
For government, however, it simply is not a factor to be considered regarding the issue of same sex marriage. The Constitution is where we look, and the Constitution provides for equality.
Religion is fine for you, and you are welcome to follow it as you deem appropriate.
For government, however, it simply is not a factor to be considered regarding the issue of same sex marriage. The Constitution is where we look, and the Constitution provides for equality.
Posted on 11/11/25 at 4:51 am to HillbillyTiger
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Maybe us idiots value the holy sacrament of marriage given to us by our Creator over mid term elections for the war-all-the-time death cult uniparty.
You’re retarded. The church’s marriage and the state’s marriage are two different things.
They aren’t forcing the churches to marry gays.
Posted on 11/11/25 at 4:54 am to Green Chili Tiger
Wow, a rare win for America.
Posted on 11/11/25 at 5:04 am to omegaman66
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All marriage needs to be removed from the gov't. Marriage is a religious things and the gov't should not be involved in religious sacraments.
Really? What about deciding how divorce works out? Who gets what? How are kids to be handled? Supported? What about who owns the home they live in? Should married couples file taxes as individuals?
Posted on 11/11/25 at 5:39 am to uziyourillusion
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Bro we don’t care about your personal or religious beliefs. Hold all that hate in your heart if you wish. The moment you try to legislate your hate against people is when there’s gonna be a problem.
I don't hate anyone, you just interpret my pointing out the obvious as hate. I get the defense mechanism. I also know that's the Holy Spirit convicting you.
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And if the worst you can say about someone is that their worst sin is a sin that’s rooted in love for another “precious child of god”,
Uh it's not rooted in love, It's rooted in lust. Love is doing the right thing even with its hard. Lust is giving into primordial desires because it feels good and everything else be dammed.
In the end it doesn't hurt me, but Christ calls Christians to spread his Gospel to all the world. He doesn't say force people to believe in his saving grace. So I will never stop talking about Jesus because his name needs to be heard and known. What you do with that word is up to you and ultimately God.
But believe this, It is not me who convicts you, you convict yourselves.
Posted on 11/11/25 at 6:17 am to Esquire
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Churches are free to do this now.
So plural marriage is allowed now?
Posted on 11/11/25 at 6:20 am to SOSFAN
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So you admit that it didn't start as a religious concept and In fact didn't really become one until 3800 years later. So in the term of time marriage being religious is relatively new.
Actually, I never set a time frame on it initially. I only did so in response to your reply.
My original comment was:
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Marriage is a religious concept.
Note that "is" means in the present, as in today.
Posted on 11/11/25 at 6:33 am to retired_tiger
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And the Constitution provides for equality for all persons. Not all persons, except gays. (Or blacks, women, disabled, or other minority group).
Race and sex are protected, not who you want to frick.
Posted on 11/11/25 at 6:50 am to Turbeauxdog
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Race and sex are protected, not who you want to frick.
In terms of Constitutional analysis, it's not that simple, as the text of the Constitution doesn't describe fundamental rights or suspect classes. Courts just kind of make those up as they go, and things like race were not historically a protected class. That's a recent development (primarily via Brown in 1954). Sex wasn't really included until 1976 when Craig v. Boren created intermediate scrutiny out of thin air to deal with it.
Posted on 11/11/25 at 7:09 am to SlowFlowPro
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Courts just kind of make those up as they go,
No shite.
Posted on 11/11/25 at 7:45 am to Turbeauxdog
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Race and sex are protected, not who you want to frick.
"Any person" means everyone.
It does not mean everyone except those you don't like, or everyone except those you want to discriminate against.
Everyone.
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Amendment XIV
Section 1.
All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
Posted on 11/11/25 at 8:04 am to retired_tiger
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"Any person" means everyone.
Your rationale would completely eliminate massive swaths of government regulation and programs. It would eliminate the progressive tax code, any benefits provided to women or men because they are women or men, all social programs. The list goes on and on. Discrimination is necessary that's why legislation that discriminates stil stands.
Posted on 11/11/25 at 8:30 am to LSUGrrrl
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Government recognized marriage doesn’t have anything to do with our holy sacrament of marriage. That can only be provided by the church.
Where did I say anything about govt vs church?
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