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re: SCOTUS rules on Callais

Posted on 4/29/26 at 5:03 pm to
Posted by N.O. via West-Cal
New Orleans
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Posted on 4/29/26 at 5:03 pm to
The dissent explained how the term “cracked” is used in districting.
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
131905 posts
Posted on 4/29/26 at 5:07 pm to
The wise latina says this will have “grave consequences”

Doesnt matter bitch. Not your job to worry about consequences.

Is it constitutional or not? Thats your job.
Posted by TigerBait1971
PTC GA
Member since Oct 2014
16433 posts
Posted on 4/29/26 at 5:19 pm to
Other than the great news, the best part of this thread is everyone (except one poster) completely ignoring SFP.

Posted by real turf fan
East Tennessee
Member since Dec 2016
12005 posts
Posted on 4/29/26 at 5:22 pm to
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So, I no longer have to have Cleo as my representative?


As someone who went from Lindy Boggs to William Jailbird Jefferson, I will smile for you and watch the arguments "He's so valuable to the district in his current leadership location" as all the wannabe leaders undermine him quietly.
Posted by Veritas
Member since Feb 2005
10921 posts
Posted on 4/29/26 at 5:39 pm to
Thoughts and prayers SFP
Posted by Bourbon Bebe
Member since Oct 2023
318 posts
Posted on 4/29/26 at 5:53 pm to
Motion for hearing was filed today in LA Supreme Court to decide a new map.

Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
26833 posts
Posted on 4/29/26 at 6:18 pm to
Early voting starts Saturday. Will be interesting to see how this plays out.
Posted by Ailsa
Member since May 2020
9553 posts
Posted on 4/29/26 at 6:31 pm to
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Is it constitutional or not? Thats your job.


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Kagan lost it: Section 2 is essentially a "DEAD LETTER"

"The consequences are likely to be far-reaching and grave."
Posted by Zap Rowsdower
MissLou, La
Member since Sep 2010
16316 posts
Posted on 4/29/26 at 6:34 pm to
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Early voting starts Saturday. Will be interesting to see how this plays out.


Some mail in ballots have been sent in at this point too. I guess this falls under the Purcell principle maybe, I’m not sure if this qualifies as a “rules” change or not.
Posted by Huge Richard
Member since Dec 2018
4573 posts
Posted on 4/29/26 at 6:41 pm to
We are going have the most beautiful maps
Posted by Zap Rowsdower
MissLou, La
Member since Sep 2010
16316 posts
Posted on 4/29/26 at 6:44 pm to
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We are going have the most beautiful map


You’re gonna love it!
Posted by Ailsa
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9553 posts
Posted on 4/29/26 at 6:44 pm to
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Democrats don't have a House majority without those court-ordered maps.

A dozen of their current seats sit in districts that only exist because federal courts FORCED states to draw them
Louisiana, Alabama, Georgia, North Carolina, South Carolina — every one has at least one Democrat seat in a court-created black-majority district
Their House margin is FOUR seats
SCOTUS just made 12 of their 213 seats legally redrawable
Republican-led legislatures don't need new voters — they need a redistricting committee and a Tuesday afternoon

If race-based districts are unconstitutional, then Louisiana redraws.

If Louisiana redraws, then Alabama redraws.

If Alabama redraws, then every Southern state redraws.

If every Southern state redraws, the Democrat House majority was a 60-year courtroom artifact — not an election result.

That's what nobody is saying out loud.

The 2026 midterms were just decided 6-3 — six months before Election Day.
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This post was edited on 4/29/26 at 6:48 pm
Posted by oldskule
Down South
Member since Mar 2016
25468 posts
Posted on 4/29/26 at 6:51 pm to
Cleo never did "represent" you.....seriously!

Great day for America!
Posted by SlickRick55
Member since May 2016
2895 posts
Posted on 4/29/26 at 7:36 pm to
Ok it’s getting confusing to me. Can some one explain how a districting map is supposed to be properly drawn? Is population based and then so many parishes out from an epicenter? Do the shapes of the districts have certain shapes or boundary guidelines to follow?
Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
44433 posts
Posted on 4/29/26 at 7:42 pm to
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Ok it’s getting confusing to me. Can some one explain how a districting map is supposed to be properly drawn? Is population based and then so many parishes out from an epicenter? Do the shapes of the districts have certain shapes or boundary guidelines to follow?

First they'll use Ai to draw the maps based on population as per current laws dictate ... not on race.

It's 100x faster than doing it the old way. This way they'll get it done before the Midterms.

Then they have committees, governed by strict rules, touch up any potential overlaps or fuzzy parts.

Matter of fact, in Florida it's already done. I suspect it's already done in Louisiana as well tbh.
Posted by MidWestGuy
Illinois
Member since Nov 2018
2019 posts
Posted on 4/29/26 at 8:12 pm to
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Ok it’s getting confusing to me. Can some one explain how a districting map is supposed to be properly drawn? Is population based and then so many parishes out from an epicenter? Do the shapes of the districts have certain shapes or boundary guidelines to follow?


Well, as I understand it, it is confusing, from a "what it should be and what it is" view. I'm certain the intent was always that the districts should represent a cross section of the State. But if politicians are involved in the map, they are going to try to game it to their advantage. That's what they do. And if the laws allow it, there you are.

Last time I researched it, there is an 'open maps' group, and they have developed algorithms for it. As you say, start from the population centers, work outwards until you hit geographical or municipal boundaries, and reiterate until you have an equal population in each of the districts for that State.

Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
33618 posts
Posted on 4/29/26 at 8:14 pm to
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minority citizens are going to be cracked out of the process."

I'm not familiar with the term. What does "cracked out of the process" mean?
Cracking and packing. Two different methods of dividing districts.
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Cracking and packing (often combined with or related to stacking) are primary gerrymandering techniques used to manipulate voting districts for partisan or racial advantage.

Cracking splits a voting bloc across multiple districts to dilute its power, while packing concentrates a group into one district to reduce its influence elsewhere.

1. Cracking (Diluting Power) Definition: Splitting a community of interest or political group among multiple districts. Purpose: To make the group a minority in many districts, preventing them from electing their preferred candidates. Example: A city that is heavily Democratic is split into three different districts that are otherwise surrounded by rural Republican voters, ensuring the Democratic vote is never large enough to win any of the three districts.

2. Packing (Concentrating Power) Definition: Consolidating as many of the opposition party’s voters as possible into a few, limited districts. Purpose: To reduce the opposition's voting strength in all other surrounding districts. Example: Concentrating all minority voters in a city into one single district, where they might win with 90% of the vote, rather than having them spread out to win 55% of the vote in two or three districts.

3. Stacking (Combined Submerging) Definition: A form of packing that combines a minority group with a larger, dissimilar population that consistently outvotes them. Purpose: Historically, this often involved creating large, multi-member districts where a concentrated minority population is overwhelmed by a larger, often higher-income or different-race majority. Example: Placing low-income, minority voters in the same district as higher-income voters who turn out at higher rates, thus "stacking" the deck against the minority group's preferred candidate.
This post was edited on 4/29/26 at 8:17 pm
Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
44433 posts
Posted on 4/29/26 at 8:18 pm to
Nice explanation of the cracking, packing and stacking phraseology.

Posted by MidWestGuy
Illinois
Member since Nov 2018
2019 posts
Posted on 4/29/26 at 8:28 pm to
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Run on forcing “gerrymandering-free” districts across the entire nation
+1 But we need some sort of 'open source' neutral system in place to design the map.
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and force the dems on voting against it and have them explain why they are against the idea or embrace it and provide more competitive R races in the blue states.
Sounds good, but they seem to be OK opposing the Voter ID bill, so I'm not feeling so confident here.
Posted by Gauge
Member since Mar 2014
86 posts
Posted on 4/29/26 at 8:45 pm to
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Not your job to worry about consequences. Is it constitutional or not? Thats your job.


I wish I could give this more than one upvote. This is so right, and so few people understand it.
This post was edited on 4/29/26 at 8:46 pm
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