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re: SCOTUS rules on Callais

Posted on 4/30/26 at 10:22 am to
Posted by hogcard1964
Alabama
Member since Jan 2017
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Posted on 4/30/26 at 10:22 am to
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I guess what I’m asking is, the whole reason we had to draw up new maps is because a federal judge told us we needed 2 minority districts based on our population, correct?

This ruling essentially turns that over and says minority/majority doesn’t matter, only population and compactness does, correct?


Yes

...and the Communists are pissed because they can't practice racism when voting.

It's really insane.
Posted by JimEverett
Member since May 2020
2356 posts
Posted on 4/30/26 at 11:06 am to
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I never understood why they did this in the first place.

Our first real project in law school back in the day was to research strict scrutiny judicial review which happens when the government makes race-based decisions like drawing the map intentionally based on race.

It would be plainly unconstitutional to a first year law student and you have justices dissenting?


Both sides accept that section 2 of the VRA can be a compelling interest that survives strict scrutiny. The majority just reads the statute more narrowly while the dissent thinks that discriminatory practices 70+ years ago satisfies strict scrutiny.
Posted by Ailsa
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Posted on 4/30/26 at 11:46 am to
Posted by hogcard1964
Alabama
Member since Jan 2017
19542 posts
Posted on 4/30/26 at 11:52 am to
Was that today?
Posted by Ailsa
Member since May 2020
8059 posts
Posted on 4/30/26 at 12:14 pm to
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Was that today?


Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 4/30/26 at 1:19 pm to
This is really well stated ...

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SCOTUS just nuked the Democrats’ favorite election rigging scheme from orbit and the leftist panic is pure comedy gold.

The Supreme Court just torched Louisiana’s disgusting racial “snake” map ... that gerrymandered intestine-looking abomination Democrats used to steal seats in the South. Decades of VRA lawfare, racially rigged districts, and “minority group rights” bullshite? DEAD.

Section 2 of the Voting Rights Act never required this unconstitutional race-based map drawing, but activist courts turned it into a Democrat superpower. Yesterday that superpower got castrated.

Louisiana’s already suspending primaries. Florida just fast-tracked a +4 GOP map that’s now bulletproof. Alabama is redrawing ASAP. More states are about to pile on.

This one ruling could vaporize up to 40 Democrat House seats. Forty. The same clowns who’ve been protected by racial gerrymandering for years ... like Bennie Thompson ... are about to get redrawn into political oblivion.

Obama’s already out here crying about “democracy” and “minority group rights” like the Constitution gives racial blocs special privileges. Newsflash, Barry: Groups don’t have rights. Individuals do. Your neo-communist identity politics just got slapped into next week.

The Democrats’ Southern firewall is collapsing. Their House math is imploding. And the salt flowing from the left is absolutely delicious.

This is what winning looks like. Midterms just got a massive red wave injection.

The panic is glorious.
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https://floppingaces.net/most-wanted/scotus-just-blew-up-the-democrats-favorite-election-rigging-scheme-and-the-panic-is-glorious/
This post was edited on 4/30/26 at 1:25 pm
Posted by Dixie2023
Member since Mar 2023
5147 posts
Posted on 4/30/26 at 1:20 pm to
Why do they need special districts and can’t assimilate into the district they live in and just be a voting citizen?
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
43098 posts
Posted on 4/30/26 at 1:27 pm to
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Why do they need special districts and can’t assimilate into the district they live in and just be a voting citizen?


Exactly. We're either in this together or we are not. Identity politics has ruined us.

There's no reason why a black man in Lafayette can't be in the same district as a white man from Lafayette.
Posted by TigerBait1971
PTC GA
Member since Oct 2014
16354 posts
Posted on 4/30/26 at 1:38 pm to
I know that you are a black guy, and from your posts you are a logical and reasonable person. So I'm going to ask a question and please know I'm not trying to be offensive, just trying to understand the current situation.

If you had to guess, what percentage of the black population wakes up each day and identifies themselves as black first, before anything else? Not a Christian, not an American, not a father or brother or husband or doctor or engineer, etc. "I'm black first and foremost."

Any way in your mind to change that mindset?
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
43098 posts
Posted on 4/30/26 at 2:00 pm to
quote:

I know that you are a black guy, and from your posts you are a logical and reasonable person. So I'm going to ask a question and please know I'm not trying to be offensive, just trying to understand the current situation.


I know

quote:

If you had to guess, what percentage of the black population wakes up each day and identifies themselves as black first, before anything else? Not a Christian, not an American, not a father or brother or husband or doctor or engineer, etc. "I'm black first and foremost."


A much larger percentage than I'd like. I'd guess over 70%, and that's a low estimate.

It's how we're conditioned. I'm not entirely free of it myself.

quote:

Any way in your mind to change that mindset?


It will take a long time. But, in my opinion, it has to start with people not coddling us. We have to learn that we don't need or deserve special treatment because of past injustices. At some point, we have to be treated equally and be held accountable like any other group.

The Callais ruling is important, because the country is telling us "it's time for equal treatment". Hopefully this is what we need to see ourselves as Americans first, and not black Americans.

But again, this will take a long time if I'm right.
Posted by SoggyCerealClub
Member since Apr 2026
49 posts
Posted on 4/30/26 at 2:19 pm to
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We're either in this together or we are not. Identity politics has ruined us.

Very much so. It’s one of the main reasons I changed my voter registration to no party affiliation. I vote on candidates not parties.
Posted by hogcard1964
Alabama
Member since Jan 2017
19542 posts
Posted on 4/30/26 at 2:33 pm to
I like it.

I just pray Louisiana does the right thing with this grifter.
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 4/30/26 at 4:55 pm to
Posted by hogcard1964
Alabama
Member since Jan 2017
19542 posts
Posted on 4/30/26 at 5:00 pm to
That is awesome!!!
Posted by turkish
Member since Aug 2016
2380 posts
Posted on 4/30/26 at 5:21 pm to
I’ve been around long enough not to get my hopes up on this whole deal. All sounds too good to be true.
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
24002 posts
Posted on 4/30/26 at 6:01 pm to
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dissent thinks that discriminatory practices 70+ years ago satisfies strict scrutiny.

Right, it’s just stupidity to think that the effects of racism argument holds up still today
Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
43451 posts
Posted on 4/30/26 at 10:17 pm to
Thomas Sowell is a good read.

One of my heros.

He addresses race based gerrymandering in a couple of his books.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
41958 posts
Posted on 5/1/26 at 6:39 am to
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I’ve been around long enough not to get my hopes up on this whole deal. All sounds too good to be true.


It’s real. The problem is feckless RINOs slow walking the new districts.

This ruling fricked up their plan to wait Trump and MAGA out.
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
43098 posts
Posted on 5/1/26 at 10:18 am to
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Thomas Sowell is a good read.

One of my heros.

He addresses race based gerrymandering in a couple of his books.


He's a genius
Posted by dale10
The Red Stick
Member since May 2006
974 posts
Posted on 5/1/26 at 12:19 pm to
Sowell’s wealth, poverty and politics should be required reading for every person who claims / wants to be an American citizen.
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