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re: SCOTUS delivered a fatal blow to the deep state today.

Posted on 6/29/26 at 11:22 pm to
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
45299 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 11:22 pm to
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what damage do you think the next DEM will do with less restraint?


They had restraint?

So 100% of the bureaucratic state will be Dem instead of 99.99999999999999999999%!

The horror.

The Dem machine (entrenched bureaucracy) has been stonewalling the current administration at every opportunity. They did so in his first term as well.

This at least gives Trump an option that didn’t previously exist…


Posted by RIPMachoMan
Member since Jun 2011
9386 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 11:23 pm to
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Take it up with the founding fathers. The president always had this authority.


So this is my hesitation… when the other party has control for a term or two

Admittedly I agree with the ruling… Trump will cause disruption in a good way but my fear is the power when inevitably the left has the executive and chambers
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63881 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 11:24 pm to
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What yall don’t understand is that concentration of power in a handful of people is a recipe for corruption and abuse.
Huh? Having unelected, unaccountable, and unfirable bureaucrats *is* the very definition of concentrated power in the hands of a few. Only judges should enjoy the insulation of lifetime appointments. Regulatory agencies are not fiefdoms, nor their directors kings.

The only reason power (now) falls to the executive branch is because Congress created those agencies. Congress can (and in many cases should) end them. My guess is you'll howl if that ever happens.
Posted by LSUbest
Coastal Plain
Member since Aug 2007
17531 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 11:32 pm to
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You mean the president that stated that he would just appeal their decision?


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following the Supreme Court's June 2023 ruling that struck down the original $430 billion sweeping debt-cancellation plan (the Biden-Nebraska case), the Biden administration used alternative legal authorities and executive rule changes to continue forgiving targeted debt.
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
16146 posts
Posted on 6/30/26 at 7:37 am to
Posted by theballguy
HSV (Dealing only in satire)
Member since Oct 2011
40900 posts
Posted on 6/30/26 at 7:44 am to
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SCOTUS delivered a fatal blow to the deep state today.





SCOTUS is part of the deep state.
Posted by TTOWN RONMON
Member since Oct 2023
1701 posts
Posted on 6/30/26 at 8:35 am to
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What yall don’t understand is that concentration of power in a handful of people is a recipe for corruption and abuse.



Which is the very system (Deep State) you advocate for, not an OUTSIDE President voted in by we the people to overcome the Deep State.

Do you even understand the real reason the Senate has a 60 vote filibuster rule? I bet you buy into the ole lie, to have bipartisanship. Now think it through. Both R & D leadership want this, because it means they never have to do the will of the people who voted them in, unless they want to, and its sets up the out party leaders for GRAFT. How so?

Well, lets take the old Balanced Budget Amendment from the 90s, once the Rs took all three branches why couldn't they get it passed? Wink, because no Rs in leadership want it, thus they never have to vote on it because of the 60 vote rule (WINK WINK) which they created for this very purpose, they can never get blamed because the need 60 votes, and that goes for all things being considered. They have a built in excuse why they can't do our will (be it Republicans or Dems when in power). BUT, they get to do their will or should I say their MONEY MASTERS WILL. How? By paying off the out of power party with GRAFT, which is why spending is out of control. They have set up a system where 1.) They can always shift the blame to the other side. 2.) And a system when the out of power party can "legally bribe" the in power party, and in order to get anything done, that is what happens, and they can just say, well, to get anything done we have to make deals. EXCUSE ME, this is the Mafia 101 rules, you make a deal or else. You buy into this BS, LOL.

These same evil fools stay in Washington DC for 20,30, 40 years, and they see Presidents come and go, the Deep State CIA/FBI have jumped in bed with these DC people, they all see the President we put in as the Enemy. They elected a black commie naive punk, via manipulation. They blamed Bush for their own (CIA, think about it) lies about WMDs, that was their wat of controlling Bush. Then they stole the 2020 Election with a brain dead man who never got out of his basement BS Mr. Hand man (Enter the Dragon quote, if you know, you know)

Meanwhile they do what they could not do unto us in the 30s and 40, divide us as a Nation. But unlike how the commies did it in Europe, by Working Class, this never worked in the USA so they started dividing us by race, pitting us against each other where they could control the narrative. BUT...we started getting wise, so they had to bring a Color Revelation to their own shores. But Trump was God's STRONG MAN or CHAMPION against them, everything he does is because God picked him to deliver us from this Gov. monstrosity, and from this Anti-God Uni Party, where one is 50% against God and are crooks, and the other 100% hate God, and are all crooks. Trump is like holy water unto them, they expose themselves when he walks by. Anyone who can not see this is naive.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481186 posts
Posted on 6/30/26 at 8:42 am to
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following the Supreme Court's June 2023 ruling that struck down the original $430 billion sweeping debt-cancellation plan (the Biden-Nebraska case), the Biden administration used alternative legal authorities and executive rule changes to continue forgiving targeted debt.


Correct. It mirror the Trump tariff actions.

Engage in illegal behavior. Have it ruled illegal. Attempt the same behavior via different legal grounds.

Nothing improper with either scenario.

The new concern is that the next Biden won't even have to worry about this.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
14814 posts
Posted on 6/30/26 at 8:46 am to
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What yall don’t understand is that concentration of power in a handful of people is a recipe for corruption and abuse.


A better way to say it is that concentrating power in smaller handfuls of people increases the potential for abuse rather than spreading it out. It doesn't decrease it, it increases it, and it does so disproportionately.

We just went in the wrong direction.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
110616 posts
Posted on 6/30/26 at 8:47 am to
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TBoy


Okay, James Talarico.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
14814 posts
Posted on 6/30/26 at 8:54 am to
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not an OUTSIDE President voted in by we the people to overcome the Deep State.


Trump tripled his net worth in the first year of his second term.

And he largely did so by deregulating bitcoins—which is something he has decried for years as being the haven of criminal enterprise and funny money—and then heavily investing in it personally.

That's fine if you wanted to jerk off to the fantasy that Trump was some "outsider" his first term, but you'd have to be blind to not see that he has become what y'all populists call "The Deep State."

Trump has accomplished a couple of things of note and he deserves full credit for them. If people end up actually going to prison over election fraud he will have accomplished a third.

Other than that he tells y'all cult members exactly what you want to hear, makes token efforts at things that ultimately don't move the needle, and y'all think he's a messiah.

Just remember this. Very few of the mechanisms for even the legit great things he has accomplished will still be in place 6 months after the next Democratic POTUS takes office...but this ruling will be.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
43447 posts
Posted on 6/30/26 at 8:59 am to
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That was the opinion of a leftist.


I know. My bad. I wasn’t directing to you. Cheers!
Posted by riccoar
Arkansas
Member since Mar 2006
5386 posts
Posted on 6/30/26 at 9:11 am to
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This unresponsiveness of the government to the voters is a feature, not a bug


It's called Globalism. The Right needs to come out of it's daze in relation to it and any Centrist or Moderate Democrat needs to pull their head out of their arse. That's the model these Socialist Democrats are trying to bring to America.

I'm hoping that England is finally at it's whits end and starts pushing back against Labour and The Globalists.



"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." - Thomas Jefferson
Posted by TTOWN RONMON
Member since Oct 2023
1701 posts
Posted on 6/30/26 at 9:16 am to
Blah bla bla, rich peoples money goes up and down, he has made a lot of money because he had to start up media companies because Leftist Commies tried to thwart free speech.

Firstly, I buy nothing you libs say, you repeat what you are told like Russia, Russia, Russia, you are all like brainwashed, programmed bots.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
14814 posts
Posted on 6/30/26 at 9:40 am to
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Firstly, I buy nothing you libs say


Firstly, if you are MAGA, I am more conservative than you by a lot.

Secondly, it's a Google search away. Don't believe me. Look it up yourself.

Third, just admit that Trump is your god and you don't care what he does...you don't care if he is involved in graft, you don't care if he's manipulating the system for his own personal gain, he can do anything and you don't care.

You isolationist pussies moaned and wailed for 4 years while Biden was in office about people starting wars. You were probably one of them—I'd guess going by this board s 80% of MAGA bought into that nonsense—melting down for weeks just because Biden said he would use force to keep Iran from getting nuclear weapons. He didn't do anything, he just made that statement, and y'all went nuts. Trump actually does it and you don't care.

So just say, "The rules are different for Trump. 'That's Differen(T).' He can do the same thing my head explodes about if anybody else even thinks about doing it, and I couldn't care less."

We could stop arguing if y'all would just admit it.

Just put "That's Differen(T)" in your sig. I won't bother to argue with anyone who has that sig.

Posted by StGeorgeTiger
Member since Sep 2024
947 posts
Posted on 6/30/26 at 10:00 am to
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What yall don’t understand is that concentration of power in a handful of people is a recipe for corruption and abuse.


The head of The Executive Branch isn’t in control of it??

Besides, there’s nothing more dangerous than many people throughout many lettered agencies who are not held accountable by We The People. IF you didn’t think there was such a thing going on before 2016, fine. 10 years later, the only excuses for not saying that are intentional ignorance or blatant blasphemy. The choice is yours.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
45299 posts
Posted on 6/30/26 at 10:52 am to
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The new concern is that the next Biden won't even have to worry about this.


The left wants to wipe their arse with the Constitution.

Why are you pretending that “the next Biden” would have even remotely given a shite?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481186 posts
Posted on 6/30/26 at 10:54 am to
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The left wants to wipe their arse with the Constitution.

But the courts stopped that. They may not be able to, now.
Posted by alphaandomega
Tuscaloosa-Here to Serve
Member since Aug 2012
17358 posts
Posted on 6/30/26 at 12:23 pm to
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What yall don’t understand is that concentration of power in a handful of people is a recipe for corruption and abuse.


If that power is in the hands of an elected President it is easier to remove (impeach) him if he goes beyond his powers.

Not so easy to do with some unelected, unknown to the general public bureaucrat. Many of these deep staters are completely behind the scenes and do not change positions when a new administration comes in.
Posted by Ailsa
Member since May 2020
11835 posts
Posted on 6/30/26 at 12:35 pm to
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40% of the posters here still don't even understand that our real fight is against our own corrupt system. They've had a full decade to figure it out, but they're still clueless.


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