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re: SCOTUS delivered a fatal blow to the deep state today.

Posted on 6/29/26 at 8:56 pm to
Posted by TFH
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Posted on 6/29/26 at 8:56 pm to
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What yall don’t understand is that concentration of power in a handful of people is a recipe for corruption and abuse.

As opposed to low-iq people taking govt jobs and filling the ranks with democrat morons?
Posted by Speckhunter2012
Lake Charles
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 6/29/26 at 8:57 pm to
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Doesn't this make the Deep State exponentially stronger as soon as next Democrat gets in office?


As opposed to 2017-2026 limiting it to the PDJT era?

Maybe if a POTUS can be in control of the Executive Branch as our Constitution was written?

NB4 - contrarian contends many of these bureaucracies are created and funded by Congress. However, any execution of the law, i.e., edicts enforced as law but not passed by Congress and signed by POTUS have no Constitutional authority.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 6/29/26 at 8:57 pm to
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The Supreme Court has dramatically expanded presidential power


I disagree. It merely defined it for partisan judges, since congress refuses to use their tools.
Posted by LSUbest
Coastal Plain
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 6/29/26 at 9:00 pm to
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The Supreme Court has dramatically expanded presidential power


That was the opinion of a leftist.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 6/29/26 at 9:03 pm to
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As opposed to 2017-2026 limiting it to the PDJT era?


Having a system that limited the executive's power granted by Congress to what Congress actually gave the executive dealt many blows to leftist policies, like ruling Biden's vax mandate and student loan forgiveness illegal.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 6/29/26 at 9:04 pm to
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It merely defined it for partisan judges, since congress refuses to use their tools.

That's specifically not what this case is about. Congress did "use their tools" and the Supreme Court neutered them from doing so.

How this policy develops over time is going to be interesting. I have to imagine the APA is next.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 6/29/26 at 9:04 pm to
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What yall don’t understand is that concentration of power in a handful of people is a recipe for corruption and abuse



One day you will grow up and understand the true underlying problem of DC. The SC assisted the President in part of it. Now it’s up to the house and senate to clean out their deep state staffs.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 6/29/26 at 9:06 pm to
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One day you will grow up and understand the true underlying problem of DC. The SC assisted the President in part of it. N

Again, this exponentially increased that underlying problem as soon as a Democrat takes office again.
Posted by LSUbest
Coastal Plain
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Posted on 6/29/26 at 9:09 pm to
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 6/29/26 at 9:10 pm to
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What yall don’t understand is that concentration of power in a handful of people is a recipe for corruption and abuse.


Unfireable, unelected bureaucrats?
Posted by TerryDawg03
The Deep South
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 6/29/26 at 9:10 pm to
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Liz Truss


Truss was a victim of the UK pension scheme (investment portfolio). It's a ticking time bomb chock full of derivatives that will blow whenever rates are allowed to increase. She never stood a chance and it really wasn't her fault.

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The Supreme Court has dramatically expanded presidential power, the court held that presidents have free rein to fire agency heads at will, despite federal laws that require a cause for such dismissals and a 91-year-old decision that had limited executive authority.


This could be good or bad. Good when "our team" is in the White House. Bad when it's not. Still trying to think this one through.
Posted by LSUbest
Coastal Plain
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 6/29/26 at 9:14 pm to
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Still trying to think this one through.


Justice Blowhard opposes it.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
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Posted on 6/29/26 at 9:14 pm to
No shite but it doesn’t mean you don’t clean it out when given the opportunity. One day you will grow up too and understand.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
103299 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 9:32 pm to
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Take it up with the founding fathers. The president always had this authority.


This. There are 3 separate but equal branches of govt. The bureaucracy isn’t one of them so they fall under one of the 3. This means the one they fall under, in this case the executive, has control of them.
Posted by LSUbest
Coastal Plain
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 6/29/26 at 9:46 pm to
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There are 3 separate but equal branches of govt.


Except they are no longer equal.

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The bureaucracy isn’t one of them so they fall under one of the 3. This means the one they fall under, in this case the executive, has control of them.


Should, but there was this
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a 91-year-old decision that had limited executive authority.


Until today.
This post was edited on 6/29/26 at 9:51 pm
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
24086 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 9:57 pm to
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The Supreme Court has dramatically expanded presidential power, the court held that presidents have free rein to fire agency heads at will, despite federal laws that require a cause for such dismissals and a 91-year-old decision that had limited executive authority.


Well 91 years ago, it appears the Supreme Court dramatically expanded Congressional power and today it ended.

Thank God!!
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44775 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 10:06 pm to
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like ruling Biden's vax mandate and student loan forgiveness illegal.


You mean the president that stated that he would just appeal their decision?

Besides, the damage was already done.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
479602 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 11:10 pm to
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You mean the president that stated that he would just appeal their decision?


...he lost the appeals, which is what I was referencing.

He didn't attempt either policy again.

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Besides, the damage was already done.


And with this new ruling, what damage do you think the next DEM will do with less restraint? Lots more.
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