re: Scott Bessent just summed up the migration crisis for America

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The 2 parties have abandoned capitalists and capitalism.

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now it's time for Main Street to do well

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As per the norm, the wisdom you have convinced yourself that you possess has completely eluded you.

Main street is the bedrock of capitalism and entrepreneurship.

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I never thought I'd hear the GOP promote literal Democratic economic talking points ("Wall Street has done well; now it's time for Main Street to do well")

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Lol. So now you believe the lie that conservatives didn't care about regular folks? Yeah frick you

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Nobody has been able to explain how this would work.

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Baloney! It’s easily explained, and I’ll sum it up here for you.

Unfettered immigration, along with offshoring is capitalism run rampant. It is true that this creates more wealth than restricting this would, however, it concentrates that wealth in the hands of a few. Just to be clear and transparent, I am one of those few.

It has long been understood that when the gap between the rich and working class becomes too great society becomes unstable, opening the door to radical isms, like socialism. This is to be avoided. In America, the working class is falling behind. On the Democrat side they are having a hard time holding off the Bernies and AOCs. On the Republican side they have been taken over by DJT’s populism. And that is the measure by which we conclude that we have gone too far and must reel this in.

We will short-circuit some wealth creation by doing this, but we should return some prosperity to the working class. We have run this play many times in the past century; Social Security, Medicaid, and every other entitlement has been a wealth destroyer that was implemented for the sake of social stability. The same is true of every regulation. Now, don’t say this hasn’t been clearly explained to you. It has. And this is not the first time.

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It has long been understood that when the gap between the rich and working class becomes too great society becomes unstable, opening the door to radical isms, like socialism.

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I would challenge this assertion.

Have we ever experienced a growing wealth gap in a capitalist society that lead to an extremist takeover?

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In one post SFP states that increasing the money laborers make is an inefficient use of capital as it’s not enough for them to “invest” and suppressed labor costs are good.

Then in another argues that it’s not slave labor since they make so damn much.

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Yes. The 2 are not in opposition

There is a gap between low wages and slave wages.

Which was addressed specifically with min wage that you ignored (for obvious reasons)

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Is that the biggest concern with unfettered illegal immigration?

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I'm only speaking to his comments

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Do we believe that removing illegals from the country will help drive down the costs associated with all the free handouts they were given along with the burden placed on our infrastructure in regards to education, healthcare, and so forth?

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There is a give and take here.

SS/Medicare in particular will have a funding gap without their tax contributions,.for example

The data regarding the cost of illegals also almost always includes their American children, which is misleading/dishonest.

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You're comment makes sense only if Wall Street is capitalism but the small shop on main street isn't.

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That doesn't make sense and I already discussed why

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Supply and Demand are a big part of capitalism. When states retard supply or demand they are not being capitalist.

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Yes. Immigration laws and Draconian enforcement of these laws will retard supply of Labor

That's his whole point and how the wages will increase

What I'm discussing is the future effects of that government policy intended to divert (redistribute?) money from war economically productive areas to less economically productive areas.

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The US has not been a real capitalist country in something like 200 years.

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Obviously a scale and I'm discussing it becoming less specifically redistributive government policies

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Unfettered immigration, along with offshoring is capitalism run rampant. It is true that this creates more wealth than restricting this would, however, it concentrates that wealth in the hands of a few.

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This is a straight up Bernie/AOC talking point

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Secure borders to conserve our American culture

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I specifically addressed the "blood and soil" commentary

I truly detest their philosophy but I give them credit for being honest about the effects of their desired policy

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. It’s nationalism

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My point remains no matter how much lipstick you want to put on the pig.

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And this nationalist-style "help" will hurt them eventually.

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The point remains

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I ignored it as it wasn’t relevant to the discussion

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Minimum wage being lower than your "slave" wages isn't relative to a discussion labeling your use of "slave wages" as histrionic? What?

How can wages above the minimum wage be considered slave wages? It's a very direct question that is very relevant to this discussion

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Why do you think these costs are suppressed?

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Immigrant labor is typically suppressed in terms of wages. This is not a new thing in terms of America or society since probably the bronze age. They come to countries with opportunities from areas with less opportunities and their demands are lower because of this.

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Is it because these people are being controlled by their traffickers?

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No

The people they work for aren't even their traffickers and various markets have emerged to price the labor. The fact that there are different markets with different labor scales completely disproves the notion that you're trying to make.

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That’s a helluva a thing to endorse.

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If you make up a straw man, you can take that anywhere. Let's try to focus on the arguments and discussions that are actually being had and not use our imagination to create fake ones to then argue against and Spike fake footballs.