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Scotland going for independence again?

Posted on 5/8/21 at 3:19 pm
Posted by Mike Joyce
Member since Jan 2021
393 posts
Posted on 5/8/21 at 3:19 pm
Nicola Sturgeon has pledged to press ahead with plans for a second independence referendum after the Scottish National party won its fourth consecutive Holyrood election, triggering a constitutional battle with Boris Johnson.
After counting ended late on Saturday evening, the SNP won 64 seats, missing out on an overall majority by just one seat, after winning a record number of constituencies despite a surge in anti-independence tactical voting.

Sturgeon said Scottish voters had given Holyrood a clear mandate by electing a pro-independence majority larger than that in the last Holyrood parliament, with eight Green MSPs elected across Scotland’s regions. It was an “extraordinary” result, she said.
In a victory speech in Glasgow, the first minister said any attempt by the UK government to block that would be a democratic outrage. “It is the will of the country,” she said, buoyed up by a record 64% turnout for a Holyrood election.
“Given the outcome of this election, there is simply no democratic justification whatsoever for Boris Johnson or anyone else seeking to block the right of the people of Scotland to choose our future,” Sturgeon said.
“If the Tories make such as an attempt it will demonstrate conclusively that the UK is not a partnership of equals and that – astonishingly – Westminster no longer sees the UK as a voluntary union of nations. That in itself would be a most powerful argument for Scotland becoming an independent country.”
The final tally left the parties close to their standing after the 2016 election, with the SNP on 64, the Tories in second on 31, Labour on 22, the Greens on eight and the Liberal Democrats on four.

Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
22848 posts
Posted on 5/8/21 at 3:24 pm to
Posted by jlovel7
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
21321 posts
Posted on 5/8/21 at 3:32 pm to
Yeah not sure you can square Brexit and not be for an independent Scotland.
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
120303 posts
Posted on 5/8/21 at 3:37 pm to
They want independence to rejoin the EU

Scotland loves them some Progressive globalism
Posted by red sox fan 13
Valley Park
Member since Aug 2018
15352 posts
Posted on 5/8/21 at 3:40 pm to
Lol let them. Scotland is an economic black hole for the UK.
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
32551 posts
Posted on 5/8/21 at 4:17 pm to
All of the good Scots left Scotland years ago. Me people who are still there are a bunch of nutless socialist pussies
Posted by Mathieu
Gov. Gau's Frozen Wasteland
Member since Dec 2020
193 posts
Posted on 5/8/21 at 4:20 pm to
Good. England and Wales will be better off without those Irn-Bru drinking socialists. Scottish independence would only help the Tories in Westminster.
Posted by cssamerican
Member since Mar 2011
7120 posts
Posted on 5/8/21 at 4:42 pm to
The problem with Scotland, is it’s full of Scots.
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
Member since Jan 2019
22176 posts
Posted on 5/8/21 at 4:49 pm to
I'm all for Scotland's independence if it means the price of Scotch goes down.
This post was edited on 5/8/21 at 6:52 pm
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
36072 posts
Posted on 5/8/21 at 4:53 pm to
The American romance for Scotland is so ridiculous. Scotland is a welfare-addicted, third-world dump that happens to be one of the most beautiful places in Europe. The Scots hate the English and want to leave the UK over wars that happened hundreds of years ago, only to rejoin a political and economic union dominated by a country they were at war with only 80 years ago. If I were English, Welsh or Northern Irish, I'd be glad to get rid of the Jocks.
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
27995 posts
Posted on 5/8/21 at 4:57 pm to
I guess the price of tape will be going up, and vehicles will be rolling out of control all over the world if you can't get wheel scotches anymore.
Posted by coolpapaboze
Parts Unknown
Member since Dec 2006
15816 posts
Posted on 5/8/21 at 4:58 pm to
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Lol let them. Scotland is an economic black hole for the UK.

Yep, it's basically a welfare state.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
47648 posts
Posted on 5/8/21 at 5:30 pm to
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The final tally left the parties close to their standing after the 2016 election, with the SNP on 64, the Tories in second on 31, Labour on 22, the Greens on eight and the Liberal Democrats on four.




i read up on this... the system they use is stupid.

imagine if the Libertarian Party got 5% in every House and Senate election but we gave them 20 seats (just because) even though they didn't win a single one
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
49406 posts
Posted on 5/8/21 at 5:35 pm to
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Lol let them. Scotland is an economic black hole for the UK.
Yep, it's basically a welfare state.


There's nothing there. Can't farm anything it appears. Just cold foggy bogs, marsh's and rocky hills.


*I'm basing this off Skyfall and Braveheart.
Posted by NPComb
Member since Jan 2019
27370 posts
Posted on 5/8/21 at 5:36 pm to
Do they want independence or to join the EU?
Posted by Mathieu
Gov. Gau's Frozen Wasteland
Member since Dec 2020
193 posts
Posted on 5/8/21 at 5:48 pm to
Sturgeon and the SNP want to rejoin the EU.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
27558 posts
Posted on 5/8/21 at 6:36 pm to
Scotland had better think long and hard about this. London provides a lot of goodies to Glasgow and Edinburgh. The place while cool to visit is kind of in a perpetual semi depression/ recession. Being part of the UK ( Britain) is the best thing that ever happened to it.
Posted by oldskule
Down South
Member since Mar 2016
15476 posts
Posted on 5/8/21 at 6:40 pm to
Not much comes out of the Scotties except good whiskey and old golf....
Posted by engvol
england
Member since Sep 2009
5055 posts
Posted on 5/8/21 at 6:46 pm to
They haven’t got the majority.

It’s a statistical fact that the desire for independence drops when it is a coalition pro independence government as opposed to a SNP majority.

It won’t happen.

quote:

. the system they use is stupid.


While I agree, it’s understandable logic. Why should a party that could get some 40% of the vote potentially get full control where as a party getting 10% could have no say at all.

Theoretically it should help people feel like their vote actually matters if you don’t vote for one of the big 3
This post was edited on 5/8/21 at 6:50 pm
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
17562 posts
Posted on 5/8/21 at 6:48 pm to
The whole globalism seems like it will never work. People just suffer when they try for it
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