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re: Say a prayer for the Christians is Syria
Posted on 12/9/24 at 1:29 am to Darth_Vader
Posted on 12/9/24 at 1:29 am to Darth_Vader
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me understand the motivation for Israel to install yet another radical Muslim regime on their doorstep. I ask because the trend I’ve noticed is that radical Muslims tend to be rather negative towards Israel
Israel and U.S are playing the long game here.
Ask yourself: do you prefer your enemy be an educated, civilized and united country or a radical, divided and uneducated poor country?
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Posted on 12/9/24 at 3:28 am to LsuNav
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Posters on this site don’t care about Christians in the Middle East. They care about Israel.
Just like the politicians that they worship.
Posted on 12/9/24 at 5:07 am to Squirrelmeister
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Would you agree that Christians killed, persecuted and forcibly converted people of other religions for 1500 years in the same fashion that radical Islam does today? It’s a fact, but just wondering if you can admit it.
No, I would not agree with that at all. For one, it wasn't legal to be a Christian until almost 300 years after the religion was founded and Christianity was limited to the old borders of the Roman Empire for much of the religion's history. There were missionary efforts made into Asia (China and Japan in particular) during the Middle Ages, but those efforts failed for the most part.
Islam swept out of Arabia in the 7th century and conquered almost two-thirds of the Christian world in just over 100 years. There were forced conversions of Christians to Islam for centuries before the same practice was employed by Christians in Spain in the latter stages of the Reconquista.
Christians participated in forced conversions of the natives here in the New World but rarely was it systematic and almost never practiced by the Church itself. It was almost always practiced by the State.
Posted on 12/9/24 at 6:39 am to RollTide1987
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No, I would not agree with that at all.
Shame you can’t admit the obvious.
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it wasn't legal to be a Christian until almost 300 years after the religion was founded
Yeah, so? I said 1500 years, not 2000 years. That’s about 400CE - 1900CE. At the turn of thr 20th century, native Americans and Africans were still being forcibly converted by Christians.
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Christians participated in forced conversions of the natives here in the New World but rarely was it systematic and almost never practiced by the Church itself. It was almost always practiced by the State.
Were these forced conversions done by Christians are not? You seem to be building a straw man and attacking him. It never said “the church” or “the state”. I said Christians were doing it.
If it wasn’t systemic, it’s only because they murdered the ones that didn’t want to convert.
Islam is bad because of the bad shite they did and still do. Christianity did the same damn thing. Apply the same level of scrutiny Christianity that you do to Islam. They are both evil.
Posted on 12/9/24 at 6:51 am to udtiger
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And as you note, that stopped over FIVE frickING CENTURIES AGO
Squirrel must be a woman.
“Oh you mean like that time you stared at that whores chest at the Padres game?”
“We haven’t been to San Diego since 2004!”
Posted on 12/9/24 at 6:52 am to Squirrelmeister
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Shame you can’t admit the obvious.
I’m sorry, but you tried to equate the Umayyad Caliphate of the 7th and 8th centuries with Christianity in the 15th and 16th centuries. That is apples and oranges.
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At the turn of thr 20th century, native Americans and Africans were still being forcibly converted by Christians.
Still not the same as what is going on today in North Africa and the Middle East. One consists of bad apples going against the teachings of the man they worship while the other is obeying the command of the prophet they follow. The latter is more systematic and organized. It is not the same.
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Were these forced conversions done by Christians are not? You seem to be building a straw man and attacking him. It never said “the church” or “the state”. I said Christians were doing it.
It is you who invoke arguments of straw, my friend. There is a big difference between a dozen bad apples in Spain and the New World administering forced conversions and an entire religion doing it.
Posted on 12/9/24 at 7:08 am to RollTide1987
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It is you who invoke arguments of straw, my friend.
No, that was you.
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There is a big difference between a dozen bad apples in Spain and the New World administering forced conversions and an entire religion doing it.
There’s more straw man arguments. You are implying as if I said Christianity and Islam are identical in their conversion tactics. Yes, there’s a difference. So what? Both Christians and Muslims have forcibly converted and killed other peoples for centuries.
Do you honestly think that the entire Roman Empire would have “poof” magically become Christian without forced conversions? Do you think the Scots, the Irish, the Germanic tribes, the Norse, the Rus happily accepted becoming Christian in the Middle Ages? Do you believe Christians didn’t force the majority of native Americans and Africans they encountered to become Christians? Sometimes they did it by coercion but often by violence. They used the Bible as their justification.
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I’m sorry, but you tried to equate the Umayyad Caliphate of the 7th and 8th centuries with Christianity in the 15th and 16th centuries. That is apples and oranges.
I never said shite about an Umayyad caliphate. But both your examples here were forcibly converting people using violence and their book of fairy tales as justification.
Posted on 12/9/24 at 8:25 am to joshnorris14
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We are likely to see genocide and persecution
True
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like we haven't seen in many years
Goes on every day, all over the world. Media doesn't show b/c it doesn't fit their narrative
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at the hands of Israel
You can dislike Zionists and still not parrot aAnti-Semitic propagana. Guess you didn't get the memo...
Posted on 12/9/24 at 8:27 am to RollTide1987
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the Reconquista
Hard to "Reconquista" if your country and culture haven't been decimated
Posted on 12/9/24 at 8:27 am to Darth_Vader
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I ask because the trend I’ve noticed is that radical Muslims tend to be rather negative towards Israel.
Source?
Posted on 12/9/24 at 8:36 am to Darth_Vader
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Help me understand the motivation for Israel to install yet another radical Muslim regime on their doorstep. I ask because the trend I’ve noticed is that radical Muslims tend to be rather negative towards Israel.
The people who run israel and the USA thrive on conflict. They make money and they gain power whenever people are scared and willing to give up their rights in the name of safety. It all comes down to them serving their satanic god.
Posted on 12/9/24 at 8:39 am to joshnorris14
The rebel group leadership has tried to modify the radicals among them… They want more mainstream acceptance.
Posted on 12/9/24 at 8:50 am to Squirrelmeister
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Would you agree that Christians killed, persecuted and forcibly converted people of other religions for 1500 years in the same fashion that radical Islam does today?
Was that wrong? Like, objectively wrong?
Posted on 12/9/24 at 8:52 am to LSUFreek
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Also, don't forget to say a prayer for all the Christians standing directly in snakepits, sneaking into lion's cages, laying in middle of busy highways, and eating raw pork & chicken.
Que?
Posted on 12/9/24 at 8:54 am to Darth_Vader
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Help me understand the motivation for Israel to install yet another radical Muslim regime on their doorstep. I ask because the trend I’ve noticed is that radical Muslims tend to be rather negative towards Israel.
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If tweet fails to load, click here.Posted on 12/9/24 at 8:55 am to Lima Whiskey
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Israel is worried about nation states that could hurt it. They’re not worried about having a Libya on their border. They view that as desirable by comparison, it allows them to annex more land, and they believe they can manage the chaos to their benefit. They also don’t take Islam or the Arabs seriously. In their eyes, they’re not a threat. Edit - their problem with Christianity is theological, Jesus was rejecting the Judaism of his day, and what know now. But the Christian West was also the most powerful force on the globe for what, two millennia? We're competition, unlike Islam
Nailed it. Not sure why the downvotes I guess uninformed. I spent a decade working over there all over North Africa and Middle East as a DOD/DOS contractor so I actually know this is true.
Posted on 12/9/24 at 8:59 am to Lima Whiskey
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Christianity improved the people we shared it with. It ended slavery and human sacrifice across the globe.
It is immensely funny you take these positions when other positions you hold fly in the face of it.
You are amazingly stupid.
Posted on 12/9/24 at 9:03 am to Lima Whiskey
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Christianity improved the people we shared it with. It ended slavery and human sacrifice across the globe.
Christians in the south promoted slavery as being biblically justified.
In fact, some still do.
Posted on 12/9/24 at 9:04 am to Squirrelmeister
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Squirrelmeister
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Islam is bad because of the bad shite they did and still do. Christianity did the same damn thing. Apply the same level of scrutiny Christianity that you do to Islam. They are both evil.
Wow this is rich. Gonna be honest I’ve NEVER heard of someone who thinks both are evil.
How is Christianity evil???
Turn the other cheek, etc led us to allowing millions of low iq 3rd worlders to invade us. All while giving them lots of freebies and money when as a country we’re BROKE.
So please elaborate oh wise one.
PS. I’m gonna go out on a limb and guess that you were touched by a priest or something similar. May god have mercy on your soul and Jesus guide you to forgive and live a happy life
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