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re: Saving Private Ryan is the best advertisement against war

Posted on 4/13/21 at 4:57 am to
Posted by AURaptor
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Posted on 4/13/21 at 4:57 am to
If Matt Damon is in the movie, odds are he’s going to need to be saved and people are going to die trying to save him.
Posted by Kirby59
Rocket City
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 4/13/21 at 6:08 am to
I was fortunate enough to go to Normandy a couple of years ago and stood out on Omaha Beach looking up at the hills. It’s hard to imagine what was going through those soldier’s minds as they got of their landing craft. If you are a military history buff, I highly recommend going. We got a personal guide to show us around for the day and got to go to some out of the way sites that were very interesting.
Posted by Buckeye Backer
Columbus, Ohio
Member since Aug 2009
9446 posts
Posted on 4/13/21 at 6:14 am to
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Watched it for the first time ever Saturday this past weekend.

I feel ashamed it took me so long to watch this masterpiece of a film that accurately portrays the horrors of war. It's the pinnacle of the War movie genre in my humble opinion. Can't think of anything else that tops it. The first 30 minutes on the beach is a peek past the gates of hell and looking at Satan do his thing.

May God and Jesus Christ bless those boys that died fighting for the land they love and the freedom of their families.

Before I watched this movie, I thought those men on D-Day were badasses full of testosterone that had no fear. Now? I realize those men were just as scared as it gets trying to survive and advance to breach the pillboxes, the forts, the machine gunnery and hopefully make it home.

Private Ryan lost his 3 brothers and had to live with the heavy burden of survivor's guilt of so many Rangers dying to get him home including Captain Miller who never saw his wife again and would never work on their garden again. That's the real cost of war. A cost we forced those boys to pay, however necessary it may have been at the time.

This film has firmly hardened my anti-war stance and how war must be the absolute last resort in foreign policy and we have a solemn duty to do everything we can to avoid it. It was a tragedy we had to put so many of our sons in that horrific and unimaginable hellish nightmare as that was when diplomacy failed.

You watch a movie like this and remember the bloodthirsty warmongering neocons and neoliberals in both parties today and how they lust for forever war full of horrors that's just as tragic as D-Day to pad the profits of their defense contractor donors..... They are pure evil monsters that has no place in our political system.


I would highly suggest you watch Band of Brothers too. The Episode "Day of Days" is a absolutely nerve wracking. It's the only film that i know of, that shows the chaos, death and destruction that took place on the air drop the night before D-Day. It gives great insight on why Normandy was as bloody as it was. Band of Brothers is Saving Private Ryan, but 14 hrs longs.

Posted by Zarkinletch416
Deep in the Heart of Texas
Member since Jan 2020
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Posted on 4/13/21 at 8:13 am to
The horror of that day is just unimaginable. One WWII D-Day Veteran recounted the only reason he survived the landing was because he was really short. When the boatsman dropped the gate he hunched down, as the germans unloaded on the taller guys behind him. He was the only one who survived on that Higgins boat.

Poor guys. They gave all, only to have this generation hand this country over to American hating radical communist.



Posted by fjlee90
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2016
8518 posts
Posted on 4/13/21 at 8:16 am to
Fun fact, my favorite author is a big reason why that movie was so accurate. Y’all may have heard of him. Steven Ambrose. He wrote Band of Brothers and was the curator/owner/brains behind the national WW2 museum. Hell of a man.
Posted by HubbaBubba
North of DFW, TX
Member since Oct 2010
50792 posts
Posted on 4/13/21 at 8:17 am to
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If Matt Damon is in the movie, odds are he’s going to need to be saved and people are going to die trying to save him.
Tom Hanks, in almost every movie, is believable and transcends into the character he plays. I have never watched a Matt Damon movie, no matter how good the movie, that I can get past his acting and he becomes the character. He's always just Matt Damon.
Posted by touchdownjeebus
Member since Sep 2010
26038 posts
Posted on 4/13/21 at 8:23 am to
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Before I watched this movie, I thought those men on D-Day were badasses full of testosterone that had no fear. Now?


The fear of war doesn’t ever go away, you just become desensitized to it all.
Posted by boomtown143
Member since May 2019
9407 posts
Posted on 4/13/21 at 8:24 am to
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Too bad the most anti-war president of this generation was cheated from a second term


THIS^^^
Posted by 3nOut
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Jan 2013
31754 posts
Posted on 4/13/21 at 8:28 am to
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At the 2 Presidential debates last year, the debate moderators made sure that foreign policy was never discussed. Can't remember a single question about the mideast, China, Korean peninsula, Europe, NATO and Latin America.

Shows you how successful Trump foreign policy was and liberals knew they had no good answer against it


They also knew it opened up Ukraine conversations as well.

But yeah it was pretty blatant that why they avoided it.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
70963 posts
Posted on 4/13/21 at 8:31 am to
Saving private ryan should be mandatory viewing for high school seniors.
Posted by catholictigerfan
Member since Oct 2009
59597 posts
Posted on 4/13/21 at 8:53 am to
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I would highly suggest you watch Band of Brothers too. The Episode "Day of Days" is a absolutely nerve wracking. It's the only film that i know of, that shows the chaos, death and destruction that took place on the air drop the night before D-Day. It gives great insight on why Normandy was as bloody as it was. Band of Brothers is Saving Private Ryan, but 14 hrs longs.


I just finished this book on Audible. It’s crazy what those men went through. Such respect for those who fought to rid the world of the Nazis.

What is crazy about Easy company is after fighting D-day they had to go through Market Garden a strategic failure. Than if you survived D-day and Market Garden you are thrust into the middle of the battle of the bulge in freezing weather with limited supplies completely surrounded by the Germans.

Easy company survived not one, not two but three major battles in WWII. Of course many didn’t make it. It makes sense why the 101st and Easy company are so highly regarded in WWII.

Finally, I couldn’t imagine what was going through their minds after three major battles, drinking hitlers champagne they thought they would be involved in the greatest island invasion of world history, aka the invasion of Japan. Thankfully we dropped the nukes on Japan and ended the war before that ever happened.
This post was edited on 4/13/21 at 8:56 am
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
47669 posts
Posted on 4/13/21 at 8:55 am to
Band of Brothers and The Pacific are two of the best miniseries ever made.
Posted by Buckeye Backer
Columbus, Ohio
Member since Aug 2009
9446 posts
Posted on 4/13/21 at 9:13 am to
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just finished this book on Audible. It’s crazy what those men went through. Such respect for those who fought to rid the world of the Nazis.

What is crazy about Easy company is after fighting D-day they had to go through Market Garden a strategic failure. Than if you survived D-day and Market Garden you are thrust into the middle of the battle of the bulge in freezing weather with limited supplies completely surrounded by the Germans.

Easy company survived not one, not two but three major battles in WWII. Of course many didn’t make it. It makes sense why the 101st and Easy company are so highly regarded in WWII.

Finally, I couldn’t imagine what was going through their minds after three major battles, drinking hitlers champagne they thought they would be involved in the greatest island invasion of world history, aka the invasion of Japan. Thankfully we dropped the nukes on Japan and ended the war before that ever happened.



I think what makes Band of Brothers so incredibly good, is that before every episode, you get to see the real life survivors describe the episode you are about to see. It adds real faces to the story. You connect with them. "Why We Fight"...the episode where Easy Company discovers the abandoned concentration camp full of Jews is amazing. How the Germans in the next town never knew is insane. Somebody already said it, but Band of Brothers is the GREATEST series ever made.

Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
22505 posts
Posted on 4/13/21 at 9:27 am to
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Saving Private Ryan is the best advertisement against war

In these days and times I'd look to the example set by Hiroshima and Nagasaki. With any conflagration between developed countries that will be the outcome in any serious war. That is where the war is an existential threat to all sides. It is not the storming of beaches on D Day.
Posted by DingLeeBerry
Member since Oct 2014
11682 posts
Posted on 4/13/21 at 9:32 am to
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Watched it for the first time ever Saturday this past weekend.

I feel ashamed it took me so long to watch this masterpiece of a film that accurately portrays the horrors of war. It's the pinnacle of the War movie genre in my humble opinion. Can't think of anything else that tops it. The first 30 minutes on the beach is a peek past the gates of hell and looking at Satan do his thing.


I watched it once and swore I’d never watch it again. My grandpa was on the beach. As a kid I always thought it was cool he was there. I used to get aggravated (I never told him that) that he refused to tell any of his war stories. The first 30 minutes of that film put it in perspective for me as to why he never spoke of it.
Posted by alphaandomega
Tuscaloosa-Here to Serve
Member since Aug 2012
16647 posts
Posted on 4/13/21 at 9:50 am to
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Give Band of Brothers and The Pacific a watch if you liked Saving Private Ryan




Schindlers List was a good one too. Apocalypse Now is also worth a watch regarding Vietnam.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
100353 posts
Posted on 4/13/21 at 11:40 am to
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Yep, he reached out to our enemies. Even North Korean President Kim Jung-un. Never thought I would ever see that in my lifetime. You folks do realize the Korean War is not over, right? War is such a waste.


Trumps biggest success was his foreign policy. He managed to do what people thought was impossible.

Got our enemies under control without paying them off or going to war
Peace deals in Middle East
Got NATO members to start paying their share
Posted by AirbusDawg
Milton, Ga
Member since Jan 2018
2909 posts
Posted on 4/13/21 at 1:20 pm to
No one forced these boys to do anything, they volunteered. As a veteran of the first Gulf War, I can tell you that not one of us were forced to do what we did. The only vets that can say they were forced, are those that were drafted into the Vietnam conflict. I don't buy your BS about the neocon warmongers either. Sadam Hussein murdered tens of thousands of his people. You people that want to rewrite history and believe there were no weapons of mass destruction are just wrong. He had them and used them.
Posted by Byrdybyrd05
Member since Nov 2014
26424 posts
Posted on 4/13/21 at 1:25 pm to
The DDay scene was one of the realest scenes I have ever seen in a movie as a kid and now.
Posted by NineLineBind
LA....no, the other one
Member since May 2020
8409 posts
Posted on 4/13/21 at 1:52 pm to
The hand-to-hand combat scenes late in the movie are pretty intense. Being face to face with your enemy in a knifefight shows how war isn't just pull a trigger or push a button to win. It's visceral.
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