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re: San Antonio cop shoots 17 year old for "Eating while not driving" (OP edited to own error)
Posted on 10/7/22 at 10:00 am to SUB
Posted on 10/7/22 at 10:00 am to SUB
I'm not saying it is justified either. I just know that when cops get murdered in the line of duty, eventually that information gets posted to all police for training.
The average citizen never gives one second to thinking about what might happen to them on the daily. Police officers don't have that luxury. Every interaction with someone could be their last. They have to remain in a heightened sense at all times.
People don't simply repeat "comply with the police and live" because they are pro-Police, but rather common sense people with home training that were taught that some people possess authority and it should be respected.
I don't conceal myself from police view after they pull me over.
I don't reach for the glove box or console unless asked to provide something and tell them where I'm reaching.
I don't keep my hands lowered where they are not visible, I place them on the steering wheel or towards the driver window where they can be seen.
I don't act rudely or say "why the frick are you harassing me"
I don't say "frick the police" "frick all ya'll"
I sit and comply. So simple.
The average citizen never gives one second to thinking about what might happen to them on the daily. Police officers don't have that luxury. Every interaction with someone could be their last. They have to remain in a heightened sense at all times.
People don't simply repeat "comply with the police and live" because they are pro-Police, but rather common sense people with home training that were taught that some people possess authority and it should be respected.
I don't conceal myself from police view after they pull me over.
I don't reach for the glove box or console unless asked to provide something and tell them where I'm reaching.
I don't keep my hands lowered where they are not visible, I place them on the steering wheel or towards the driver window where they can be seen.
I don't act rudely or say "why the frick are you harassing me"
I don't say "frick the police" "frick all ya'll"
I sit and comply. So simple.
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Posted on 10/7/22 at 10:01 am to Tupelo
It wasn’t a stop. Who is to stay the kid even realized it was a cop? Cop didn’t say he was one.
Posted on 10/7/22 at 10:02 am to Powerman
quote:
Talk about irresponsible and stupid.
It seems so at this point.
Posted on 10/7/22 at 10:03 am to riccoar
The fact that you think YOU having to do everything right to not be shot IS the problem.
We always say “cop stress” but what about our stress? This person was a kid. We can’t expect kids with not fully developed brains to react “perfect” to not be shot when an unannounced cop pulls up with a gun.
We always say “cop stress” but what about our stress? This person was a kid. We can’t expect kids with not fully developed brains to react “perfect” to not be shot when an unannounced cop pulls up with a gun.
This post was edited on 10/7/22 at 10:07 am
Posted on 10/7/22 at 10:06 am to Ag Zwin
Forearm tats on the cops was a dead giveaway that he’s a blow hard with no business having a badge.
Also needs to be said that it’s not clear if the kid put it in reverse or took foot off brake. If you had somebody walk up behind you and open the door saying to get out what would you do? Needless to say, kid will get paid and shitty cop is already unemployed.
Also needs to be said that it’s not clear if the kid put it in reverse or took foot off brake. If you had somebody walk up behind you and open the door saying to get out what would you do? Needless to say, kid will get paid and shitty cop is already unemployed.
Posted on 10/7/22 at 10:16 am to JayDeerTay84
Let's see, a cop car behind you with flashing lights that you can see reflecting off the car he's behind.
But who's to know thats a cop? GTFOH
The cop opens the door and the kid is eating but then instantly try's to flee. That was obvious.
Let me guess, you are one of those "he's got to earn my respect"
There may be problems with the stop, but that kid trying to automatically put it in reverse and flee once he clearly knew it was a cop was just dumb.
That's the question "Who does that?"
You can break down everything you think the cop did wrong, but please at least have enough brain cells to acknowledge the kids reaction was stupid and almost deadly for him.
But who's to know thats a cop? GTFOH
The cop opens the door and the kid is eating but then instantly try's to flee. That was obvious.
Let me guess, you are one of those "he's got to earn my respect"
There may be problems with the stop, but that kid trying to automatically put it in reverse and flee once he clearly knew it was a cop was just dumb.
That's the question "Who does that?"
You can break down everything you think the cop did wrong, but please at least have enough brain cells to acknowledge the kids reaction was stupid and almost deadly for him.
Posted on 10/7/22 at 10:17 am to riccoar
The only lights flashing was the kids taillight. Not a blue light present.
Posted on 10/7/22 at 10:18 am to Ag Zwin
Meh - kid CLEARLY sees it's a cop for 2 seconds before putting it in reverse.
Cop doesn't shoot for another 5 seconds AFTER the car has traveled back 10+ feet.
Not great, but not "shot eating a burger" bullshite either.
Stop with the sensationalized headlines and you might get some people more on your side.
Cop doesn't shoot for another 5 seconds AFTER the car has traveled back 10+ feet.
Not great, but not "shot eating a burger" bullshite either.
Stop with the sensationalized headlines and you might get some people more on your side.
Posted on 10/7/22 at 10:18 am to Ag Zwin
quote:
Walked up with gun pointed at driver
Do we know if this is true? There are a lot of responses that assume this to be true. The video clearly shows both hands with no gun in either when the kids starts reversing. It seems the gun was only pulled after the reversing and door hitting the cop.
Again...not justifying the cops actions. Just trying to get the story straight.
This post was edited on 10/7/22 at 10:21 am
Posted on 10/7/22 at 10:20 am to SUB
quote:
SUB
is it your standard operating procedure to open a strangers car door at night and stick a gun in their face?
I’m assuming you’re a cop. if you are, turn your badge in
This post was edited on 10/7/22 at 11:57 am
Posted on 10/7/22 at 10:20 am to SUB
Cop never got hit.
Posted on 10/7/22 at 10:21 am to BengalOnTheBay
quote:
As someone said, the time between the cop opening the door and starting to shoot is like 4 seconds, so yeah, he pretty much did.
It can still be a bad shooting without having to lie about it. The kid started backing up, I can’t tell you if it was intentional or not. But suggesting the guy opened the door, the kid looked at him, and he gunned him down doesn’t help.
Posted on 10/7/22 at 10:21 am to WinnPtiger
quote:
is it your standard operating procedure to open a strangers car door at night and stick a gun in their face?
Well, that isn't what happened, so what is your point?
Posted on 10/7/22 at 10:21 am to JayDeerTay84
Look again, you can see them reflecting off of the kids car.
You are wrong.
You are wrong.
Posted on 10/7/22 at 10:21 am to SUB
It’s on video. It exactly happened.
Posted on 10/7/22 at 10:22 am to JayDeerTay84
quote:
It’s on video. It exactly happened.
Show me a screenshot of where you see a gun pointed at him, BEFORE he puts it in reverse? I already posted 2 that show no gun in either hand.
This post was edited on 10/7/22 at 10:24 am
Posted on 10/7/22 at 10:23 am to SouthEasternKaiju
quote:
This is the headline.
Not the stupid lie that he was shot for eating while not driving.
Good grief.
Having not seen anything else, I bet 100 bucks this is right. Now I'll have to look at it.
"Eating while not driving" is so obviously not a real thing.
Posted on 10/7/22 at 10:23 am to riccoar
Watch the video. It shows the cop SUV in it with NO LIGHTS ON.
This post was edited on 10/7/22 at 10:24 am
Posted on 10/7/22 at 10:23 am to JayDeerTay84
[img]Cop never got hit.[/img]
You can actually hear him say something to the effect of “ow, frick”
You can actually hear him say something to the effect of “ow, frick”
Posted on 10/7/22 at 10:24 am to SouthEasternKaiju
quote:Nah. In the Blake case, there were clearly identified LEO with a long entanglement with the perp.
Both ignored the cops directions & made quick sudden move as he turned his back. No way of knowing what if anything he was going for in that instant.
In this other one, a kid was minding his business when a maniac flung his door open and put a gun in his face. Not clear at all that the kid even registered that it was a cop.
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