re: San Antonio cop shoots 17 year old for "Eating while not driving" (OP edited to own error)

end qualified immunity for stupid crap like this and cops will be more careful.

Cop was scared and had no reason to fire his gun. At most should have used taser but it wasnt even the right car.

Cops need to learn that they have to follow the laws as well.

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SAPD rookie James Brennand initially said he fired his weapon after the teen suspect struck him with his vehicle,

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How does getting bumped by a door you ripped open equal shooting the guy. Cops life was not in danger.

Also why was the cop shooting as the driver was driving off, why not chase him down.

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end qualified immunity for stupid crap like this and cops will be more careful.

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I’m against this. You’re making policy based on extreme outliers.

Make the officers at least partially responsible for their liability insurance. The financial consequences will drive them to self-police more effectively.

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I didn’t say that. Should read more carefully.

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Why are you trying to gaslight? This is what you said.

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We can’t expect kids with not fully developed brains to react “perfect” to not be shot when an unannounced cop pulls up with a gun.

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its night time and a guy with a gun opens your car door.

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Gaslight? It was accurate. It’s obvious that the “cop” had a gun on his hip with the quick draw he did.

As soon as he opened the door, the 1st shot was fired in 4 seconds.

You changed the wording to “gaslight”. I never once said what you claimed.

You added the “gun drawn” part. My usage was correct.

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Cop thought a parked car he came upon was one he had chased the night before.

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Did he not have a license plate number to compare?

What an awful story. Sounds like the guy needs jail time.

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I see both his hands on the car while backing up and no gun in either hand. I posted screenshots of it earlier on page 4.

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Say we stipulate to everything you’ve claimed. Then what?

What’s the appropriate response for the cop with regards to discipline?

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You are full of shite. You expect us to believe that you meant "gun on his hip" when you said "cop with a gun"?

Would you describe every instance a copy pulls someone over for a speeding ticket as "cop with a gun asked driver to get out of car"? Almost all cops on duty have guns on their hips. We all know that. Stop pretending like we are all that stupid.

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Well did I say drawn? No I didn’t.

If you don’t have critical thought skills, you could of just asked what I meant.

It seemed clear his gun was within reach and highly likely it was visible.

Even if it wasn’t, nothing the “cop” did was right or justified.

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Say we stipulate to everything you’ve claimed. Then what?

What’s the appropriate response for the cop with regards to discipline?

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I've said several times that he was in the wrong. I still think he should be disciplined and fired. He caused the whole situation. I just think it's crazy that people completely fabricate parts of the story that make it sound worse than it is, and others will fight tooth and nail to defend the fabricated parts, even in the face of the truth.

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It's because the kid almost immediately put the car in gear and tried to run. Again, I'm not saying the cop was right here. Particularly in light of the fact the kid in the car doesn't appear to do anything which looks like an immediate threat to the cop's life. But the kid trying to run is what, rightly or wrongly, led to the shots. To say otherwise is disingenuous.

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A) Do we know the kid intended to put the car in gear? His hand goes to the shifter and he says "what?" Was it in already in gear with his foot on the brake and he intended to put it in park but instead accidentally put it in reverse? I don't know, neither do you.

B) Did he intend to run or did he backup accidentally and then run when the cop started shooting at him because an innocent 17 year old kid might be really scared and confused why a cop was shooting him?

C) Do cops generally start shooting at people who are fleeing but have done nothing to show themselves to be a direct threat to the officer (or public, for that matter)?

D) A dipshit cop that acted inappropriately from start to finish and seemed to be ready to start gunning someone down from the get-go is what led to the shots. To say otherwise is disingenuous.