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re: Sage grouse are gone from North Dakota
Posted on 12/26/25 at 12:28 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
Posted on 12/26/25 at 12:28 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
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wind turbine
I am highly opposed to wind turbines and habitat loss due to solar farms.
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Posted on 12/26/25 at 12:32 pm to NC_Tigah
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So you're aware numbers in those areas, home to most of the population, are stable or in slight incline? See, that's curious. I didn't pick up that vibe from the OP at all. Perhaps an oversight on your part?
Sarcasm noted.
Though I’m not sure what your post has to do with overall national numbers that are declining.
On a similar note, maybe we could say wild quail are increasing in (1) county in Texas and extrapolate that to mean wild quail populations are fine everywhere?
Posted on 12/26/25 at 12:33 pm to Jbird
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The state blames habitat fragmentation from agriculture and development, along with the West Nile Virus as the primary causes of sage grouse declines
Thanks for supporting my point in the OP
Posted on 12/26/25 at 12:34 pm to weagle1999
That's one trippy looking bird
Posted on 12/26/25 at 12:34 pm to weagle1999
Clown excludes the rest of the data, brilliant! 
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Their range is limited to the state’s southwest corner, along the border shared with Montana, and the population of male birds there has hovered below 250 birds since the early 1990s
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along with the West Nile Virus as the primary causes of sage grouse declines. The virus decimated the remaining population in 2007
This post was edited on 12/26/25 at 12:37 pm
Posted on 12/26/25 at 12:37 pm to weagle1999
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That’s true, but they were there.
The idea that the BLM mouthpiece would say sage grouse are thriving is ludicrous.
They may be thriving in a state next door such as Wyoming.
The solution is to relocate birds from the thriving locations to ND.
Growing up in SOWELA, we never saw Turkey until they are trapped and relocated to areas like Vernon and Beauregard Parishes some years ago. Now we have Turkey in Moss Bluff, just north of Lake Charles.
Nature finds a way if we give it a chance.
Posted on 12/26/25 at 12:40 pm to Jbird
Seems like you are getting emotional again.
In my experience almost every situation like this is traced back to habitat loss, which is a euphemism for development.
There could have been an effect from a virus, but that was just the deathblow to a population depleted by the loss of places to live.
As to your other point, I don’t see where it is meaningful.
Have a great day
In my experience almost every situation like this is traced back to habitat loss, which is a euphemism for development.
There could have been an effect from a virus, but that was just the deathblow to a population depleted by the loss of places to live.
As to your other point, I don’t see where it is meaningful.
Have a great day
This post was edited on 12/26/25 at 12:41 pm
Posted on 12/26/25 at 12:41 pm to weagle1999
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Seems like you are getting emotional again.
He's known for it.
Posted on 12/26/25 at 12:41 pm to Speckhunter2012
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The solution is to relocate birds from the thriving locations to ND.
That has been tried without success, unfortunately.
Posted on 12/26/25 at 12:42 pm to weagle1999
Are we on to Muh Sage Grouse now?
I’m pretty sure you’ve got him this time.
I’m pretty sure you’ve got him this time.
Posted on 12/26/25 at 12:42 pm to weagle1999
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Seems like you are getting emotional again.
Sure thing quote:The experts called is decimation.
There could have been an effect from a virus, but that was just the deathblow to a population depleted by the loss of places to live.
Posted on 12/26/25 at 12:45 pm to weagle1999
Wow Trump "planning" on doing something could affect a species that is already extinct from the area and Trump is to blame??? Didn't know just planning something could have such and affect.
Posted on 12/26/25 at 12:47 pm to Strannix
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Wind energy on the other hand absolutely devastates birds, especially raptors.
They don't wanna talk about that.
Posted on 12/26/25 at 12:50 pm to geauxbrown
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Same way it can be bad for quail.
Not enough quality cover and nesting habitat
Farming changed and so did the wildlife.
Thirty years ago, grouse were on the farms of East TN. Not anymore. The Farms are gone and so have the Grouse. Even cottontail rabbits are disappearing.
Posted on 12/26/25 at 12:57 pm to bird35
quote:yeah, the cause-effect doesn't really match does it.
I don’t see how drilling for oil will cause a decline in the overall grouse population. Even if you drill for oil 99% of the land is inhabitable for grouse.
Also, how can ranching be bad for grouse? Seems like grazing cattle and grouse could coexist.
Seems like the decline in grouse is being caused by something else and people are just tying it to progress because they are occurring at the same time.
quote:checks out, lol
bird35
Posted on 12/26/25 at 1:02 pm to weagle1999
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So long as shithead Biden didn’t do anything we shouldn’t do anything either?
What could have been done in the last 11 months to reverse what happened?
Posted on 12/26/25 at 1:18 pm to weagle1999
This may come as a surprise to you but animals don’t recognize state lines. I know right?
Posted on 12/26/25 at 1:21 pm to weagle1999
This is terrible. We must save that fine bird. I haven't been able to cope with life since the Dodo went extinct. 
Posted on 12/26/25 at 1:44 pm to NC_Tigah
Sage Grouse are completely extinct from South Louisiana. Shut down Cajun Country.
Posted on 12/26/25 at 1:48 pm to Gus007
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Even cottontail rabbits are disappearing.
This is an interesting one that can be used as a case study or jumping off point for multiple aspects of conservation.
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