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Posted on 5/11/17 at 10:04 am to tomthum81
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scary ... americans need to wake up!
You're quite the silly little comrade.
Nasdarovje!
shite, i think i blew my cover... i mean, how about the local baseball club. They really put together quite the match...
This post was edited on 5/11/17 at 10:05 am
Posted on 5/11/17 at 10:07 am to tomthum81
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Here's one example from 5 minutes ago...
That's one guy
Heres another one for you tho. If I have to decide between trusting the Russians or Muslims, who am I picking? And the next question is, whom are you picking?
Posted on 5/11/17 at 10:09 am to tomthum81
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Those countries have CHANGED ... they're true democracies now.
Exactly. They got their asses kicked and woke up. Us being a military powerhouse as compared to them, they had no choice but to succumb. However, now with Russia having more nukes than us, we can't use that same kick arse approach to them.
So, do you always want Russia to be hated by us or do you want some form of detente in hopes that a pissing contest between us and them doesn't possible wipe half of us off the face of the earth?
Posted on 5/11/17 at 10:10 am to RobbBobb
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Heres another one for you tho. If I have to decide between trusting the Russians or Muslims, who am I picking? And the next question is, whom are you picking?
what the???
NEITHER ... why is that even a question?
We don't negotiate w/ terrorists... that includes Putin.
Posted on 5/11/17 at 10:12 am to Homesick Tiger
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So, do you always want Russia to be hated by us or do you want some form of detente in hopes that a pissing contest between us and them doesn't possible wipe half of us off the face of the earth?
geez... exactly something an operative would say... that's failed logic.
we don't negotiate w/ terrorists.
Posted on 5/11/17 at 10:12 am to tomthum81
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We don't negotiate w/ terrorists..
Obama sure as hell did.
Posted on 5/11/17 at 10:12 am to idlewatcher
trump is promising every white guy in merica a golden shower by a russian prostitute!
and you can date ivanka!
and you can date ivanka!
Posted on 5/11/17 at 10:13 am to tomthum81
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We don't negotiate w/ terrorists... that includes Putin.
You are too wound up, tomthum81. Relax, have some vodka.
And, did you guys here, Trump is actually a Russian KGB agent. He's actually Putin's biological brother. OMG guys. Totes scary!!!
Posted on 5/11/17 at 10:13 am to tomthum81
I think the Putin defense you refer to may be to tweak Dems with the absurdity of the Muh Russians narrative. But anybody who actually understands Russia and Putin understands he is a bad actor and fundamentally hostile to US interests.
I also think a lot of the reaction you get from those of us who have been anti- Communists our entire life is a general rolling of the eyes that the Democrats of all people, have suddenly discovered that Russia is a threat, and are pretending they are keeping us safe from Russian influence. That is comedy. And so many people enjoy tweaking all the overnight Progressive anti- Russian superheroes with The ridiculousness of their sudden red- baiting.
I also think a lot of the reaction you get from those of us who have been anti- Communists our entire life is a general rolling of the eyes that the Democrats of all people, have suddenly discovered that Russia is a threat, and are pretending they are keeping us safe from Russian influence. That is comedy. And so many people enjoy tweaking all the overnight Progressive anti- Russian superheroes with The ridiculousness of their sudden red- baiting.
Posted on 5/11/17 at 10:13 am to tomthum81
I like Vodka...does that make me an Russian operative?
Posted on 5/11/17 at 10:14 am to tomthum81
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Here's one example from 5 minutes ago...
And I stand by it. I trust Putin far more than Hillary Clinton. Putin's goals are pretty clear (increase Russian hegemony). Clinton's goals are far more sinister. She is in bed with everyone around the world from the Saudis to the Russians to the Chinese. Her goal is to make as much money as she can by selling the country out (like she did with her classified e-mail). Her husband was directly responsible for modernizing the Chinese military (lots of American military tech went to China in the 90's).
Speaking of e-mail, does anyone bother to ask what exactly Hillary was DOING with those classified (TOP-SECRET SAP) e-mails on her homebrew server? She is a career politician, married to a former President, a former Senator and a Sec. of State. She knows the rules about classified info. This was no accident. No, she was selling classified information to foreign entities (I guarantee it).
Posted on 5/11/17 at 10:14 am to tomthum81
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Is it possible? the way blacks are defended here lately ...
No American I've known in my ENTIRE life would defend blacks this way.
Guys - it's easy... always has been, and still is, unless you can convince me blacks have drastically changed recently.
Blacks = Bad
We shouldn't trust them.
Has anyone here ever had a conversation with another American ... in REAL life ... where blacks were discussed in anything but a negative light?
Fixed to point out your phobia.
Posted on 5/11/17 at 10:15 am to Lsupimp
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I also think a lot of the reaction you get from those of us who have been anti- Communists our entire life is a general rolling of the eyes that the Democrats of all people, have suddenly discovered that Russia is a threat, and are pretending they are keeping us safe from Russian influence. That is comedy. And so many people enjoy tweaking all the overnight Progressive anti- Russian superheroes with The ridiculousness of their sudden red- baiting.
I can appreciate that... but this isn't a joke. This shite's real. We need to keep these f*$kers out.
Posted on 5/11/17 at 10:15 am to tomthum81
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tomthum81
Seriously... You need to wake up. Congressional record 1963
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Mr. HERLONG. Mr. Speaker, Mrs. Patricia Nordman of De Land, Fla., is an ardent and articulate opponent of communism, and until recently published the De Land Courier, which she dedicated to the purpose of alerting the public to the dangers of communism in America.
CURRENT COMMUNIST GOALS
1. U.S. acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war.
2. U.S. willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war.
3. Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by] the United States would be a demonstration of moral strength.
4. Permit free trade between all nations regardless of Communist affiliation and regardless of whether or not items could be used for war.
5. Extension of long-term loans to Russia and Soviet satellites.
6. Provide American aid to all nations regardless of Communist domination.
7. Grant recognition of Red China. Admission of Red China to the U.N.
8. Set up East and West Germany as separate states in spite of Khrushchev's promise in 1955 to settle the German question by free elections under supervision of the U.N.
9. Prolong the conferences to ban atomic tests because the United States has agreed to suspend tests as long as negotiations are in progress.
10. Allow all Soviet satellites individual representation in the U.N.
11. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one-world government with its own independent armed forces. (Some Communist leaders believe the world can be taken over as easily by the U.N. as by Moscow. Sometimes these two centers compete with each other as they are now doing in the Congo.)
12. Resist any attempt to outlaw the Communist Party.
13. Do away with all loyalty oaths.
14. Continue giving Russia access to the U.S. Patent Office.
15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.
16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions by claiming their activities violate civil rights.
17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers' associations. Put the party line in textbooks.
18. Gain control of all student newspapers.
19. Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack.
20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policymaking positions.
21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.
22. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all forms of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to "eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings, substitute shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms."
23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. "Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art."
24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.
25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.
26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."
27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity which does not need a "religious crutch."
28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state."
29. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.
30. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man."
31. Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of the "big picture." Give more emphasis to Russian history since the Communists took over.
32. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture--education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.
33. Eliminate all laws or procedures which interfere with the operation of the Communist apparatus.
34. Eliminate the House Committee on Un-American Activities.
35. Discredit and eventually dismantle the FBI.
36. Infiltrate and gain control of more unions.
37. Infiltrate and gain control of big business.
38. Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but psychiatrists can understand [or treat].
39. Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist goals.
40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.
41. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.
42. Create the impression that violence and insurrection are legitimate aspects of the American tradition; that students and special-interest groups should rise up and use ["]united force["] to solve economic, political or social problems.
43. Overthrow all colonial governments before native populations are ready for self-government.
44. Internationalize the Panama Canal.
45. Repeal the Connally reservation so the United States cannot prevent the World Court from seizing jurisdiction [over domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction] over nations and individuals alike.
Test yourself and see where you stand on this list. Then you can tell me who is pro Russia and who is not.
Posted on 5/11/17 at 10:16 am to tomthum81
Remember the nonsense about CTR floating around here? This is just as silly.
Posted on 5/11/17 at 10:16 am to Crow Pie
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I like Vodka...does that make me an Russian operative?
Da, comrade. Da!
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