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re: Russian missile lands in Poland, killing 2.

Posted on 11/15/22 at 3:22 pm to
Posted by TDTOM
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Posted on 11/15/22 at 3:22 pm to
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 11/15/22 at 3:23 pm to
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Really they're fighting for a scrap of land that may or may not contain oil and gas.


Pretty sure if Mexico invaded the Permian basin there might be some consequences eh?
Posted by davyjones
NELA
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Posted on 11/15/22 at 3:25 pm to
They’ve got an out, NATO, do they not? Has that been said? Probably. The out is “Ukrainian forces unintentionally deflected fragments of the missile not intended by Russia to target Poland. Just a big misunderstanding guys.”
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 11/15/22 at 3:26 pm to
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I like the Wolf, but he does seem to have a major boner for you.



Posted by alphaandomega
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Posted on 11/15/22 at 3:28 pm to
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goat.


Joe doesnt like goats, he prefers prepubescent children.
Posted by Wolfhound45
Hanging with Chicken in Lurkistan
Member since Nov 2009
120000 posts
Posted on 11/15/22 at 3:29 pm to
Mickey, you are actually one of the few Leftists on this board that I like and admire. I can disagree with you and yet still appreciate your position. But the absolute idiocy of these policies is pushing us to the brink of war. Have you read the stupidity in this spin off thread? Posters talking about going to war with Russia over a regional conflict. Cheer leading for it.

Yeah, I spent just under forty years in uniform and I am sick of this warmongering by the uniparty.

/rant
Posted by BallsEleven
Member since Mar 2019
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Posted on 11/15/22 at 3:30 pm to
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Are they saying their own missile strikes are deliberate provocation or the reports on it are?
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
23077 posts
Posted on 11/15/22 at 3:31 pm to
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Russia’s Defense Ministry called the Polish statements about Russian missiles falling into its territory near the Ukrainian border a “provocation”, state news agency TASS reported on Tuesday.

The Russian ministry said there were no missile strikes by Russian weapons near the Ukrainian-Polish border that way.

“No strikes were made against targets near the Ukrainian-Polish state border by Russian weaponry. The photographs of the wreckage published by the Polish media from the scene of the incident have nothing to do with Russian weapons," the Russian ministry said in a statement.

Earlier in the day, firefighters reported two people were killed in an explosion in Przewodow, a village in eastern Poland near the border with Ukraine.

The Associated Press cited a senior US intelligence official as saying the explosion was due to Russian missiles crossing into Poland. However, the Pentagon said it could not yet confirm the report and that it was looking into the matter.

The explosion in Poland coincided with a wave of Russian missile strikes across Ukraine, which left seven million homes without electricity.

NATO member Poland called on Tuesday for emergency meetings of its national security council and cabinet.
This post was edited on 11/15/22 at 3:34 pm
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
23077 posts
Posted on 11/15/22 at 3:31 pm to
quote:

Are they saying their own missile strikes are deliberate provocation or the reports on it are?



I was confused by that as well
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
23965 posts
Posted on 11/15/22 at 3:31 pm to
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They’ve got an out, NATO, do they not?


Art 4 Investigation (Requested by Poland) and the findings are presented to NATO members.

Art 5, the point where Russia ceases to exist, is not automatic, depends on what the investigation turns up.
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 11/15/22 at 3:31 pm to
"lands"?
Posted by alphaandomega
Tuscaloosa
Member since Aug 2012
13574 posts
Posted on 11/15/22 at 3:31 pm to


What does this even mean? Poland complaining about missles hitting inside its borders is "deliberate provocation".



Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
99122 posts
Posted on 11/15/22 at 3:32 pm to
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You get a mushroom cloud and you get a mushroom cloud!!!


Could be a net benefit as long as only a limited number of key cities were hit.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110907 posts
Posted on 11/15/22 at 3:32 pm to
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They’ve got an out, NATO, do they not? Has that been said? Probably. The out is “Ukrainian forces unintentionally deflected fragments of the missile not intended by Russia to target Poland. Just a big misunderstanding guys.”

In fairness, that could be what happened.

Not saying it is, just saying it's not like there's zero chance that happened.
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
23077 posts
Posted on 11/15/22 at 3:33 pm to
quote:

Mickey, you are actually one of the few Leftists on this board that I like and admire. I can disagree with you and yet still appreciate your position. But the absolute idiocy of these policies is pushing us to the brink of war. Have you read the stupidity in this spin off thread? Posters talking about going to war with Russia over a regional conflict. Cheer leading for it.

Yeah, I spent just under forty years in uniform and I am sick of this warmongering by the uniparty.

/rant



Hey I'm with you. I'm 100% against us getting any more involved than we already are. I actually wish we would take a step back from the level we are at right now. I feel like we've done more than enough to help Ukraine.

Also, a sincere thank you for your service. My dad, grandfather, uncle, and brother all served as well.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
30201 posts
Posted on 11/15/22 at 3:34 pm to
Serious question: would you rather Russian missile attacks at unannounced targets in your country…..or……Joe Biden as President?

I’m torn.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140565 posts
Posted on 11/15/22 at 3:35 pm to
Leftist?

He’s a right leaning moderate.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
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Posted on 11/15/22 at 3:36 pm to
It could definitely be what happened. It’s an out one way or another, which is nice.
Posted by BallsEleven
Member since Mar 2019
6163 posts
Posted on 11/15/22 at 3:37 pm to
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It could definitely be what happened. It’s an out one way or another, which is nice.


quote:

“No strikes were made against targets near the Ukrainian-Polish state border by Russian weaponry. The photographs of the wreckage published by the Polish media from the scene of the incident have nothing to do with Russian weapons," the Russian ministry said in a statement.


Well, they are doing their best to shut the door on that out.
Posted by Wolfhound45
Hanging with Chicken in Lurkistan
Member since Nov 2009
120000 posts
Posted on 11/15/22 at 3:39 pm to
Apologies for the personal rant towards you. This news has me in a very bad place right now. Time to log off.
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