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re: Russia purportedly has the long-range strategic bombers in the air

Posted on 6/18/26 at 5:40 pm to
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
38017 posts
Posted on 6/18/26 at 5:40 pm to
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Peoples being conquered by other peoples is as old as history.



This is true.


Unfortunately for Vlad it seems increasingly likely that he and Russia just aren’t strong to conquer the Ukrainians.
Posted by 844_Tiger
Down_Under
Member since Jul 2021
724 posts
Posted on 6/18/26 at 5:48 pm to
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I am surprised Putin has not done more

He should invade Ukraine, that'll show 'em!
Posted by LSUPilot07
Member since Feb 2022
8660 posts
Posted on 6/18/26 at 6:07 pm to
They don’t have many Tu-95 Bears left to put in the air which is why they use outdated Tu-22M3 as the primary heavy bomber.
Posted by BoudinChicot
Member since Sep 2021
2327 posts
Posted on 6/18/26 at 6:09 pm to
No more brother wars.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
135097 posts
Posted on 6/18/26 at 6:20 pm to
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I forsee this spiraling out of control over the next 24 hours.

Really? Even though the X post you're using as a source says..
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nothing's confirmed. This is early chatter, not a verified movement.
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
69343 posts
Posted on 6/18/26 at 6:21 pm to
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I forsee this spiraling out of control over the next 24 hours.


They do this all the time.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
56311 posts
Posted on 6/18/26 at 7:54 pm to
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except for those in the Donbass, the majority olf whom descended from ethnic Russians who settled in the area a century ago

From ChatGPT:
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The answer depends a lot on which part of the Donbas, what time period, and which residents you include. A common misconception is that the Donbas was uniformly pro-Russian. In reality, opinion was always divided. Before the 2014 conflict The Donbas (especially the regions of Donetsk and Luhansk) had: * A large ethnic Russian population. * Many Russian-speaking ethnic Ukrainians. * Strong cultural and economic ties to Russia. Even so, most surveys before 2014 found that a majority preferred remaining within Ukraine, although they often favored greater regional autonomy and closer relations with Russia. Support for outright secession or annexation by Russia was a minority position, though larger than elsewhere in Ukraine.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45724 posts
Posted on 6/18/26 at 7:59 pm to
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I forsee this spiraling out of control over the next 24 hours.


Why? Russia launches one of these missile and drone swarms at least once every 3 months.
Posted by SippyCup
Gulf Coast
Member since Sep 2008
7034 posts
Posted on 6/19/26 at 6:40 am to
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Just admit what you said was retarded and move on


The absurdity of a country making a deal with the U.S. to level one for another should have stopped you from trying to make a valid point but you couldn’t resist.
Posted by jp4lsu
Member since Sep 2016
6921 posts
Posted on 6/19/26 at 6:53 am to
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except for those in the Donbass, the majority olf whom descended from ethnic Russians who settled in the area a century ago


Correct this is the root of problem. They have had skirmishes for 20 yrs. They don't like each other.
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
39930 posts
Posted on 6/19/26 at 7:01 am to
“ Unfortunately for Vlad it seems increasingly likely that he and Russia just aren’t strong to conquer the Ukrainians.”(quote AB).

This does seem to be the case, AB. And after both finally realize it, where does this leave Ukraine? The original point of conflict was for Ukraine to join NATO, however after Europe laid down re the Iran war and the US is dumping NATO, then there is no guarantee of protection therein. In fact, joining with the EU would require Ukraine to take in massive numbers of immigrants, who would essentially fill the male population losses of the war. So essentially the Ukrainian people and culture would be ‘invaded’ from via immigration. They will figure this out at some point; or maybe Trump will educate them in front of the World, and really put them in a hard ‘National honor’ choice place.

War used to be very simple. Everything has gotten more complicated.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
72323 posts
Posted on 6/19/26 at 7:05 am to
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don’t have many Tu-95 Bears left


I thought they had a gazillion of those things
Posted by theballguy
HSV (Dealing only in satire)
Member since Oct 2011
38475 posts
Posted on 6/19/26 at 7:21 am to
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Just admit what you said was retarded and move on



will never happen here.
Posted by OccamsStubble
Member since Aug 2019
10234 posts
Posted on 6/19/26 at 7:28 am to
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Take out Zelensky and this will all end.


Conundrum: the people in the US who would be tasked with taking out Zelensky are the same people profiting the most by Zelensky not being taken out.
Posted by HagaDaga
Member since Oct 2020
8191 posts
Posted on 6/19/26 at 7:31 am to
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I would say take out Zelensky but he likely living it up in another country spending our money.
while Biden, who helped make him rich, is flying commercial. Smfh
Posted by RohanGonzales
Pronoun: Whatever
Member since Apr 2024
11190 posts
Posted on 6/19/26 at 7:33 am to
Are they still in the air? Has it spiraled out of control yet?
Posted by tigger1
Member since Mar 2005
3875 posts
Posted on 6/19/26 at 7:46 am to
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except for those in the Donbass, the majority olf whom descended from ethnic Russians who settled in the area a century ago


Except they like the Russian are descended from the Scythians that broke apart long ago. The Ukrainians are not descended from the Russians. The Russians did not move into the Ukraine until the 1600s.

The Kiev kingdom from around 500 AD is Ukraine not Russian, Russian come to power in the north later and Moscow really has little connection to the first northern Russian kingdom. Moscow becomes the power base in the North in the 1400s.

Russia under Stalin moved the Cossacks out of the eastern Ukraine and settled that area with Russians. Just before World War II the Russians moved the Germans and Poles from around Kiev and South of it.

Russia also did away with the Romanians out of Moldova and settled it with Russians in the 1930s. Still all these years later the Russians are only 3.8% of the population. The Moldavans have become the controlling population there now.

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