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re: Russia purportedly has the long-range strategic bombers in the air
Posted on 6/18/26 at 5:40 pm to lake chuck fan
Posted on 6/18/26 at 5:40 pm to lake chuck fan
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Peoples being conquered by other peoples is as old as history.
This is true.
Unfortunately for Vlad it seems increasingly likely that he and Russia just aren’t strong to conquer the Ukrainians.
Posted on 6/18/26 at 5:48 pm to tjv305
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I am surprised Putin has not done more
He should invade Ukraine, that'll show 'em!
Posted on 6/18/26 at 6:07 pm to Night Vision
They don’t have many Tu-95 Bears left to put in the air which is why they use outdated Tu-22M3 as the primary heavy bomber.
Posted on 6/18/26 at 6:20 pm to MrLSU
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I forsee this spiraling out of control over the next 24 hours.
Really? Even though the X post you're using as a source says..
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nothing's confirmed. This is early chatter, not a verified movement.
Posted on 6/18/26 at 6:21 pm to MrLSU
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I forsee this spiraling out of control over the next 24 hours.
They do this all the time.
Posted on 6/18/26 at 7:54 pm to FearlessFreep
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except for those in the Donbass, the majority olf whom descended from ethnic Russians who settled in the area a century ago
From ChatGPT:
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The answer depends a lot on which part of the Donbas, what time period, and which residents you include. A common misconception is that the Donbas was uniformly pro-Russian. In reality, opinion was always divided. Before the 2014 conflict The Donbas (especially the regions of Donetsk and Luhansk) had: * A large ethnic Russian population. * Many Russian-speaking ethnic Ukrainians. * Strong cultural and economic ties to Russia. Even so, most surveys before 2014 found that a majority preferred remaining within Ukraine, although they often favored greater regional autonomy and closer relations with Russia. Support for outright secession or annexation by Russia was a minority position, though larger than elsewhere in Ukraine.
Posted on 6/18/26 at 7:59 pm to MrLSU
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I forsee this spiraling out of control over the next 24 hours.
Why? Russia launches one of these missile and drone swarms at least once every 3 months.
Posted on 6/19/26 at 6:40 am to Powerman
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Just admit what you said was retarded and move on
The absurdity of a country making a deal with the U.S. to level one for another should have stopped you from trying to make a valid point but you couldn’t resist.
Posted on 6/19/26 at 6:53 am to FearlessFreep
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except for those in the Donbass, the majority olf whom descended from ethnic Russians who settled in the area a century ago
Correct this is the root of problem. They have had skirmishes for 20 yrs. They don't like each other.
Posted on 6/19/26 at 7:01 am to Adam Banks
“ Unfortunately for Vlad it seems increasingly likely that he and Russia just aren’t strong to conquer the Ukrainians.”(quote AB).
This does seem to be the case, AB. And after both finally realize it, where does this leave Ukraine? The original point of conflict was for Ukraine to join NATO, however after Europe laid down re the Iran war and the US is dumping NATO, then there is no guarantee of protection therein. In fact, joining with the EU would require Ukraine to take in massive numbers of immigrants, who would essentially fill the male population losses of the war. So essentially the Ukrainian people and culture would be ‘invaded’ from via immigration. They will figure this out at some point; or maybe Trump will educate them in front of the World, and really put them in a hard ‘National honor’ choice place.
War used to be very simple. Everything has gotten more complicated.
This does seem to be the case, AB. And after both finally realize it, where does this leave Ukraine? The original point of conflict was for Ukraine to join NATO, however after Europe laid down re the Iran war and the US is dumping NATO, then there is no guarantee of protection therein. In fact, joining with the EU would require Ukraine to take in massive numbers of immigrants, who would essentially fill the male population losses of the war. So essentially the Ukrainian people and culture would be ‘invaded’ from via immigration. They will figure this out at some point; or maybe Trump will educate them in front of the World, and really put them in a hard ‘National honor’ choice place.
War used to be very simple. Everything has gotten more complicated.
Posted on 6/19/26 at 7:05 am to LSUPilot07
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don’t have many Tu-95 Bears left
I thought they had a gazillion of those things
Posted on 6/19/26 at 7:21 am to Powerman
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Just admit what you said was retarded and move on
Posted on 6/19/26 at 7:28 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
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Take out Zelensky and this will all end.
Conundrum: the people in the US who would be tasked with taking out Zelensky are the same people profiting the most by Zelensky not being taken out.
Posted on 6/19/26 at 7:31 am to tjv305
quote:while Biden, who helped make him rich, is flying commercial. Smfh
I would say take out Zelensky but he likely living it up in another country spending our money.
Posted on 6/19/26 at 7:33 am to MrLSU
Are they still in the air? Has it spiraled out of control yet?
Posted on 6/19/26 at 7:46 am to FearlessFreep
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except for those in the Donbass, the majority olf whom descended from ethnic Russians who settled in the area a century ago
Except they like the Russian are descended from the Scythians that broke apart long ago. The Ukrainians are not descended from the Russians. The Russians did not move into the Ukraine until the 1600s.
The Kiev kingdom from around 500 AD is Ukraine not Russian, Russian come to power in the north later and Moscow really has little connection to the first northern Russian kingdom. Moscow becomes the power base in the North in the 1400s.
Russia under Stalin moved the Cossacks out of the eastern Ukraine and settled that area with Russians. Just before World War II the Russians moved the Germans and Poles from around Kiev and South of it.
Russia also did away with the Romanians out of Moldova and settled it with Russians in the 1930s. Still all these years later the Russians are only 3.8% of the population. The Moldavans have become the controlling population there now.
This post was edited on 6/19/26 at 9:16 am
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