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re: Rush just mentioned Justice Kennedy's take on Gay Wedding cake case
Posted on 12/7/17 at 2:06 pm to 10MTNTiger
Posted on 12/7/17 at 2:06 pm to 10MTNTiger
Didn't Kevin Spacey just confirm this?
Posted on 12/7/17 at 2:07 pm to Salmon
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Saying it is a choice implies that I can choose to be attracted to men at anytime
However choices are predetermined though some mechanism, whether philological, genetic, epigenetic, etc., etc or combination of. You were born with the propensity to choose women and not choose men.
Posted on 12/7/17 at 2:07 pm to KeyserSoze999
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an inclination does not deny a choice
so you are only gay if you act upon it?
that is the choice you are talking about?
Posted on 12/7/17 at 2:07 pm to Salmon
If a man can self identify as a woman, can't he self identify as a gay?
Or a lesbian in man's body?
Or another race?
Or a dog or cat?
There seems to be limitless choices.
What a time to be alive!
Or a lesbian in man's body?
Or another race?
Or a dog or cat?
There seems to be limitless choices.
What a time to be alive!
Posted on 12/7/17 at 2:08 pm to GumboPot
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However choices are predetermined though some mechanism, whether philological, genetic, epigenetic, etc., etc or combination of. You were born with the propensity to choose women and not choose men.
then it isn't really a choice, is it?
Posted on 12/7/17 at 2:10 pm to Salmon
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then it isn't really a choice, is it?
so then we are all just robots? we were born a certain way that will lead us down a predetermined path? people on death row really had no choice, it was just who they are?
Posted on 12/7/17 at 2:12 pm to Salmon
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If you think about robbing a bank, have an urge to rob a bank, but you don't. Are you still a bank robber?
In case you missed my question
Posted on 12/7/17 at 2:12 pm to m2pro
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Human sexuality is not as iron clad from an early age into adulthood as we may think. It becomes far more rigid as we turn older, but earlier on, it's more pliant and impressionable.
of course
but choice implies we can control it
if we can't control the factors in regards to our sexuality, is it a choice?
Posted on 12/7/17 at 2:12 pm to Salmon
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then it isn't really a choice, is it?
Yeah, I don't choose to not like french fries. I just like them. But I can choose not to eat them.
Posted on 12/7/17 at 2:14 pm to KeyserSoze999
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'being gay' is a course of action choice
Posted on 12/7/17 at 2:14 pm to Salmon
I recall those old debates here about the existence of free will.
Good times.
Good times.
Posted on 12/7/17 at 2:14 pm to Salmon
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as in you are only gay if you act upon it? please clarify
Well, Catholic Church doctrine is that being gay is not a sin. But if you commit the sex act with a man then it is. But that was back in the 50s. It's probably OK now.
Posted on 12/7/17 at 2:15 pm to GumboPot
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Yeah, I don't choose to not like french fries. I just like them. But I can choose not to eat them.
Why do you choose not to eat them?
Posted on 12/7/17 at 2:15 pm to KeyserSoze999
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so then we are all just robots? we were born a certain way that will lead us down a predetermined path? people on death row really had no choice, it was just who they are?
Ugh....reduction ad absurdum
Equating sexuality and behavioral choices that are injurious and not consensual is silliness.
To be honest, I don't even CARE if homosexuality is a "choice". If it is between two CONSENTING adults (or, close in age young people - think HS sweethearts)...I have ZERO issue with where people get their orgasms.
If happiness is mushing like genitalia into one another... MUSH AWAY!
This post was edited on 12/7/17 at 2:17 pm
Posted on 12/7/17 at 2:17 pm to Salmon
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Why do you choose not to eat them?
When I choose not to eat them it's usually because I'm on a healthy eating kick.
Posted on 12/7/17 at 2:17 pm to jorconalx
Are we at the round table smoking a fattie?? Deep thoughts happening
Posted on 12/7/17 at 2:17 pm to KeyserSoze999
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we were born a certain way that will lead us down a predetermined path?
for the vast majority of people, this is correct
we have very little control about how our lives will turn out, most of us will live within the same class that we were born into, live in the same area, have the same beliefs as our parents, etc
Posted on 12/7/17 at 2:18 pm to BlackHelicopterPilot
the point is that if its an identity then it is discrimination, if its a choice then it is not discrimination
yeah no one is disputing that
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If it is between two CONSENTING adults (or, close in age young people - think HS sweethearts)...I have ZERO issue with where people get their orgasms.
yeah no one is disputing that
Posted on 12/7/17 at 2:19 pm to Salmon
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we have very little control about how our lives will turn out,
this is bullshite
Posted on 12/7/17 at 2:21 pm to BlackHelicopterPilot
Justice Kennedy is saying that you are not gay until, "being gay' is a course of action choice".
So you can think of gay sex but until you make the choice to participate in gay sex you are not gay.
I think...
So you can think of gay sex but until you make the choice to participate in gay sex you are not gay.
I think...
This post was edited on 12/7/17 at 2:24 pm
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