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KeyserSoze999
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Rush just mentioned Justice Kennedy's take on Gay Wedding cake case
he said that kennedy drilled down and implied that

'being gay' is not an identity, but rather 'being gay' is a course of action choice

agree or disagree?
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re: Rush just mentioned Justice Kennedy's take on Gay Wedding cake case
What was his take?


KeyserSoze999
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re: Rush just mentioned Justice Kennedy's take on Gay Wedding cake case
sorry, hit submit too early


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10MTNTiger
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re: Rush just mentioned Justice Kennedy's take on Gay Wedding cake case
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being gay' is a course of action choice


exactly.


Salmon
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re: Rush just mentioned Justice Kennedy's take on Gay Wedding cake case
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'being gay' is not an identity, but rather 'being gay' is a course of action choice


as in you are only gay if you act upon it?

please clarify


KeyserSoze999
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re: Rush just mentioned Justice Kennedy's take on Gay Wedding cake case
being gay itself is a choice, whether you act on it or not, but it is not an identity


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re: Rush just mentioned Justice Kennedy's take on Gay Wedding cake case
Why can we have both?

Those who choose gay, and those born with a defective sexual compass.


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Salmon
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re: Rush just mentioned Justice Kennedy's take on Gay Wedding cake case
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being gay itself is a choice, whether you act on it or not


I don't know about you, but I don't remember this choice in my life



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re: Rush just mentioned Justice Kennedy's take on Gay Wedding cake case
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I don't know about you, but I don't remember this choice in my life



Really?

I remember we had a Paper-Rock-Scissors contest and the winner was hetero and the loser was gay?

That's not how you did it?


KeyserSoze999
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re: Rush just mentioned Justice Kennedy's take on Gay Wedding cake case
you don't remember if you chose to have sex with a man or not?


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re: Rush just mentioned Justice Kennedy's take on Gay Wedding cake case
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being gay itself is a choice, whether you act on it or not, but it is not an identity




Then the opposite is true. Being hetero itself is a choice, whether you act on it or not, but it is not an identity.

And I'm fine with that.

However I just have a propensity to choose hetero. Kind of like I choose to eat french fries and choose not to eat steamed spinach, because I was born to like french fries and hate steamed spinach.

Is that right?


KeyserSoze999
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Then the opposite is true. Being hetero itself is a choice, whether you act on it or not, but it is not an identity.

And I'm fine with that.

However I just have a propensity to choose hetero. Kind of like I choose to eat french fries and choose not to eat steamed spinach, because I was born to like french fries and hate steamed spinach.

Is that right?


exactly, good analogy
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jorconalx
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re: Rush just mentioned Justice Kennedy's take on Gay Wedding cake case
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as in you are only gay if you act upon it?

please clarify


If you think about robbing a bank, have an urge to rob a bank, but you don't. Are you still a bank robber?


Salmon
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re: Rush just mentioned Justice Kennedy's take on Gay Wedding cake case
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you don't remember if you chose to have sex with a man or not?


I don't remember ever deciding that I liked women

I never chose to be attracted to women

Saying it is a choice implies that I can choose to be attracted to men at anytime



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re: Rush just mentioned Justice Kennedy's take on Gay Wedding cake case
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Kind of like I choose to eat french fries and choose not to eat steamed spinach, because I was born to like french fries and hate steamed spinach.


do you not see the contradiction in this post?


KeyserSoze999
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re: Rush just mentioned Justice Kennedy's take on Gay Wedding cake case
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Saying it is a choice implies that I can choose to be attracted to men at anytime


is it not possible, have you never injected good heroin and wanted to get funky?


KeyserSoze999
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do you not see the contradiction in this post?


an inclination does not deny a choice


Salmon
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is it not possible, have you never injected good heroin and wanted to get funky?


nope


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re: Rush just mentioned Justice Kennedy's take on Gay Wedding cake case
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I don't know about you, but I don't remember this choice in my life



This is the primary misconception about choice. There are simple and complex choices, and people act as if that's not the case.

You have a choice in life to be successful in life, or be a bum. To be driven or not to be. A simple choice to bend over and tie your shoe if it comes undone is very different than the complex choices people undergo when they are kids turning into sexually mature adults.

Homosexuality is generally caused from psychological and social predispositions of weaknesses and these things can be made worse by different types of upbringings or abuses.

Human sexuality is not as iron clad from an early age into adulthood as we may think. It becomes far more rigid as we turn older, but earlier on, it's more pliant and impressionable.
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re: Rush just mentioned Justice Kennedy's take on Gay Wedding cake case
I would say he means more goes into your identity than sexual orientation.


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