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re: Rush just mentioned Justice Kennedy's take on Gay Wedding cake case

Posted on 12/7/17 at 2:21 pm to
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 12/7/17 at 2:21 pm to
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this is bullshite


It's not

Posted by Jjdoc
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Posted on 12/7/17 at 2:22 pm to
Yeah but thats one those "great on Paper" deals. It sounds good, but in reality doesnt work.

Case in point, this thread. People gave into that. However, here we are! A man ruined because on paper its all good, but in reality either be a part of or be ruined.

Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
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Posted on 12/7/17 at 2:22 pm to
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the point is that if its an identity then it is discrimination, if its a choice then it is not discrimination


meh...is that legal stuff? I believe it is not a "choice". If this relates to the cake issue, I support the baker in his position. I believe the baker has a reasonable claim to a religious belief and I respect that.

I am atheist, pro Gay Marriage rights, and side with the baker.
Posted by Tiger70503
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Posted on 12/7/17 at 2:23 pm to
If you had to choose between being straight and gay then you are gay.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 12/7/17 at 2:24 pm to
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So you can think of gay sex but until you take the choice to participate in gay sex you are not gay.


so what is a person that dies a virgin?

that person has no sexual identity?
Posted by Jjdoc
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Posted on 12/7/17 at 2:26 pm to
Pass it around
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 12/7/17 at 2:26 pm to
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So you can think of gay sex but until you make the choice to participate in gay sex you are not gay.



which is what I asked to clarify in my first post and for some reason its getting donwvoted

this place is so weird sometimes
Posted by tiderider
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Posted on 12/7/17 at 2:26 pm to
who cares if it's a choice or an identity? ...

why do so many "conservatives" care? ... ya'll think it's a virus? ... gonna infect you and make you sick? ...
Posted by Lsupimp
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Posted on 12/7/17 at 2:27 pm to
Why do you have to make every thread about yourself ?

*low hanging fruit
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
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Posted on 12/7/17 at 2:27 pm to
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so what is a person that dies a virgin?



Not just that....what of your 16 y/o daughter?


Is she neither until she is penetrated? I don't understand the whole idea that the ACT defines the ATTRACTION.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 12/7/17 at 2:27 pm to
because I DESERVE an identity dammit!
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Posted on 12/7/17 at 2:29 pm to
the only thing that i agree with a muzzie on is how they deal with degenerates....oops, too bad he couldn't fly, he'd have had a softer landing
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 12/7/17 at 2:30 pm to
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so what is a person that dies a virgin?


IDK, a virgin?

quote:

that person has no sexual identity?


Yeah. They're virgins.

However I guess you can have virgins with various sexual tendencies that were either developed chemically, genetically or epigenetically.
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
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Posted on 12/7/17 at 2:31 pm to
Does masturbation count?


If I look at a naked girl and masturbate, Do I become hetero?

If I watch girl-girl porn, is that confusing?

If I watch straight porn, does the dick in the scene make me bi?

If I watch gay porn and masturbate, am I gay? I didn't HAVE sex.


This is complex
This post was edited on 12/7/17 at 2:32 pm
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 12/7/17 at 2:32 pm to
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because I DESERVE an identity dammit!


I support your Constitutional right to an identity.

What do you want to be today?
This post was edited on 12/7/17 at 2:36 pm
Posted by TigerV
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Posted on 12/7/17 at 2:32 pm to
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he said that kennedy drilled down and implied that 'being gay' is not an identity, but rather 'being gay' is a course of action choice agree or disagree?


Not how I heard it, being gay was an identidy and the baker did not discriminate based on being gay, but the action of getting married; therefore he did not discriminate them for being gay. Th plaintiff claimed discrimination against their identidy but the identity is them and not the action of getting married and he would have let them buy a cake in the store that was already made therefore no discrimination
This post was edited on 12/7/17 at 2:34 pm
Posted by 225bred
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Posted on 12/7/17 at 2:32 pm to
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'being gay' is a course of action choice


100000% Agree
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 12/7/17 at 2:33 pm to
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IDK, a virgin?


so there are no sexual identities, then?

a person cannot be discriminated against due to their sexual identity because they don't exist?

so a business could legally discriminate against all hetero people? or virgins?

just trying to understand the position



Posted by FooManChoo
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Posted on 12/7/17 at 2:35 pm to
True. Ever been told you were acting so gay?

Air tight.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 12/7/17 at 2:35 pm to
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t, being gay was an identidy and the baker did not discriminate based on being gay, but the action of getting married; therefore he did not discriminate them for being gay.


this is a much more reasonable and logical stance
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