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re: Rudy Giuliani found liable for defaming GA election workers, has to pay damages.
Posted on 8/30/23 at 1:56 pm to cwill
Posted on 8/30/23 at 1:56 pm to cwill
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Costs.
He's an experienced lawyer. He can save costs by doing the work himself and giving it to his attorneys to publish. This happens all the time.
Posted on 8/30/23 at 1:59 pm to Damone
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Trump’s premier election lawyer
Nah, that would be Jack Smith, Fani Willis, and the like.
Posted on 8/30/23 at 2:00 pm to TBoy
quote:I don't think this is like an attorney-defendant drafting a first run at a pleading for his attorney. We are looking at hundreds of hours of techie time massaging data out of his devices in a form responsive to the various discovery requests, as I understand it.
He's an experienced lawyer. He can save costs by doing the work himself and giving it to his attorneys to publish. This happens all the time.
This post was edited on 8/30/23 at 2:03 pm
Posted on 8/30/23 at 2:01 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
So this is a libel civil suit where the defendant admitted he had no evidence to support false statements?
Posted on 8/30/23 at 2:02 pm to TerryDawg03
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So this is a libel civil suit where the defendant admitted he had no evidence to support false statements?
Not what happened. He admitted to making the statements. He argued that those admissions made production moot. The judge disagreed and instead of ordering production she issued a default judgment.
Posted on 8/30/23 at 2:03 pm to bayou2
... let me expand on this ...
everything, everything from the get go is a pack of lies
not a thing about this is true
For instance - the first question
Was the election stolen?
If you believe it was and you state that in court --- well you go to prison
But then what if that turns out to be true and they are able to prove it
Well there goes your house of cards
These 2 womenz from Georgia have to keep the charade going and if they are exposed as lying
Well baby, that's it
So this is -- you lie
No, you lie first
No, you lie first
and so on, all to keep it going
All a pack of lies which cannot be sworn testimony before a judge.
Posted on 8/30/23 at 2:03 pm to BBONDS25
When is he going to release the evidence?
Posted on 8/30/23 at 2:03 pm to 2020_reVISION
Civil suit??????Maybe it a way of easing himself into bankruptcy, which would help in defending himself against the other 91 federal law fare claims. I mean if you do not have the bucks to pay for discovery mandates then the mandate process has to slow down
Posted on 8/30/23 at 2:04 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
"Question the election and we will financially, socially, and politically drown you"
Posted on 8/30/23 at 2:04 pm to BBONDS25
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HHTM giddy at an Obama judge issuing a default judgement. All to legitimize the 2020 election results in Georgia. Your admission to being a far left wacko is almost complete.
Giuliani has already admitted that the factual pleadings in the complaint are true and that statements made by Giuliani were false.
Did you miss that part?
This post was edited on 8/30/23 at 2:24 pm
Posted on 8/30/23 at 2:07 pm to roadGator
Rudy’s evidence = tKraken?
Posted on 8/30/23 at 2:07 pm to BBONDS25
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In a court filing on Tuesday, Giuliani stated that he "does not contest the factual allegations" made by Freeman and Moss regarding his statements
That doesn’t prove what you think it does. It means he doesn’t deny making the statements.
LINK
He said his statements were false, but protected speech.
Posted on 8/30/23 at 2:07 pm to cwill
it seems that you are correct but there is an underlying strategy that Team Rudy is using that treats all of the individual cases he is facing as one common foe. The Ruby Freeman case is not the most pressing legal matter facing Rudy and thus they are willing to take a hit in the Ruby Freeman case to protect themselves in the other cases.
that motion was made in NY Fed Court as part of yet another case
CNN Article
I know exactly how E-discovery works and I also know exactly the safeguards that are put in place to protect yourself when you give up your device to an E-discovery company. I also know the things you do when you get your devices back from an E-discovery company. These are multi-step processes. However it was not an E-discovery company that first had his devices, it was the FBI.
Team Rudy had to get the devices to an IT person to check what the FBI did or didnt do, then they had to give them to E-discovery to comply then they had to verify the E-discovery findings versus their own scans of the devices and they got to a point where they refused the judge's orders. we dont know why they refused
it is what Rudy's lawyer says in the Politico article with a some speculation on my part added in
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I think he said in court that the FBI had those devices. And if they did, and they weren't in his possession, he should have filed a motion to that effect...based on everything I've read and seen, he never made that claim in a legal filing.
that motion was made in NY Fed Court as part of yet another case
CNN Article
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Federal prosecutors seized 18 electronic devices belonging to Rudy Giuliani and more than one of his employees when they raided his home and office last month, according to a new court filing.
The letter, dated April 29, had been previously filed publicly with many redactions. The new filing, with fewer redactions, sheds a little more light on the government’s investigative steps.
It indicates that prosecutors obtained electronic devices belonging to multiple people who worked for Giuliani Partners but it does not say specifically how many.
Giuliani previously said on Fox News that the FBI took seven or eight electronic devices when they arrived at his apartment to execute the search warrant.
His attorney, Robert Costello, previously said they also took the laptop belonging to Giuliani’s assistant when they searched his office.
Government specialists have downloaded 11 of Giuliani’s devices, according to the filing. The remainder, however, are passcode-protected, and the government has asked for Giuliani’s assistance in unlocking them.
The bulk of the now revealed material relates to a covert search of Giuliani’s iCloud account in 2019. Giuliani’s lawyers are arguing that search was illegal and prosecutors should not be able to review the materials they seized last month.
Prosecutors said they used a filter team of attorneys and FBI agents who are not on the investigative team to review the material obtained in 2019 for any items that could be covered by attorney-client or other privileges. They noted that that review is “substantially” complete.
They argued that a filter team was appropriate at the time because the warrants were executed covertly, but they are now seeking a special master, an independent person, to review the newly obtained materials in part due to the publicity of the April search.
That process was used after authorities seized material from another former lawyer for former President Donald Trump, Michael Cohen, and prosecutors said in their filing that in that case the special master “resulted in an efficient and effective privilege review.”
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That's not what he was trying to do. You hire digital firms today to perform searches using key words to pull any matching stored documentation to produce pursuant to discovery requests.
I know exactly how E-discovery works and I also know exactly the safeguards that are put in place to protect yourself when you give up your device to an E-discovery company. I also know the things you do when you get your devices back from an E-discovery company. These are multi-step processes. However it was not an E-discovery company that first had his devices, it was the FBI.
Team Rudy had to get the devices to an IT person to check what the FBI did or didnt do, then they had to give them to E-discovery to comply then they had to verify the E-discovery findings versus their own scans of the devices and they got to a point where they refused the judge's orders. we dont know why they refused
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This is all just made up based on a misunderstanding of what was going on.
it is what Rudy's lawyer says in the Politico article with a some speculation on my part added in
Posted on 8/30/23 at 2:08 pm to thebigmuffaletta
I’d bet he’s fat and lonely.
Posted on 8/30/23 at 2:09 pm to BBONDS25
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Not what happened. He admitted to making the false statements.
Corrected, see post above.
Posted on 8/30/23 at 2:09 pm to Tmcgin
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#everyonewhotouchestrumpdies
Hilariously inaccurate.
Posted on 8/30/23 at 2:10 pm to GI Jerm
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I’d bet he’s fat and lonely.
Rudy? Agreed. He will die broke and in debt leaving nothing for his family but a tarnished legacy.
Posted on 8/30/23 at 2:10 pm to Damone
I’m not even trolling them. I’d like to see the evidence laid out in court.
Posted on 8/30/23 at 2:12 pm to Gifman
is this the Ron circle jerk or the nazi leftist circle jerk?
or is there even a difference anymore?
or is there even a difference anymore?
Posted on 8/30/23 at 2:13 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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Republicans have been lying to their voters — and now those same voters are dying
Meanwhile the left is basically saying you are killing people. yet here you are fighting trump.
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