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re: Ron "unceremoniously" signs Fl. law to hide his travel and visitors records.

Posted on 5/12/23 at 2:59 pm to
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 5/12/23 at 2:59 pm to
But Ron can easily release the travel and visitor logs a month or two later for transparency purposes. Afterall he is a public servant.

The way around this is to resign from governor and run for president as a private citizen.

Public servants need to be more transparent than private citizens, as a rule of thumb and most are. Very rarely does law make government less transparent. I guess this is one of those cases where law is providing more opaqueness.
Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 5/12/23 at 3:00 pm to
Those dumb ole MAGA Fl senators sho did frick this up, huh?
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 5/12/23 at 3:01 pm to
quote:

GumboPot


Stop talking, and read the other thread. We did all of this already. You aren't new. You aren't bringing up anything new. Every thought you have about this has been refuted.

Sorry, Ron man isn't bad. I'm sure you can find another article from politico that you can post here.

LINK
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 5/12/23 at 3:02 pm to
I didn't read that thread.
Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 5/12/23 at 3:02 pm to
I’m hoping for a Hufpo link next personally.

Curious if he can find someone as upset as him.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 5/12/23 at 3:04 pm to
From that thread, your entire argument dismantled...

quote:

Why would you write a law that you know goes away on this date, if its supposed to be for protection of all Florida officials?


Pssst... DeSantis didn't write the bill.

quote:
That date just so happens to be after the Republication nomination in '28. Why would it need to magically go away then?


So it's not open ended. Per Cajunangelle's article that you simps didn't read...

quote:
Republicans contend they are pushing for the bill, SB 1616, at the urging of the Florida Department of Law Enforcement, the agency which now manages the state plane used by the governor and which has been inundated with record requests. GOP lawmakers asserted that releasing the information would allow someone to look for “patterns” that could jeopardize DeSantis’ security.


Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 5/12/23 at 3:04 pm to
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I didn't read that thread.


No shite. Or else you'd stop posting. You also didn't read the bill nor it's amendments, nor the summary.
This post was edited on 5/12/23 at 3:05 pm
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 5/12/23 at 3:07 pm to
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I’m hoping for a Hufpo link next personally.


Here is one for you:

DeSantis Quietly Signs New Law Sealing All of His Travel Records From Public, the Law Applies Retroactively


quote:

Florida Governor Ron DeSantis always makes a big deal about signing all of the Florida laws that stem from new legislation the people behind his administration submit from his office. However, when he signed the new law that sealed all his travel records [Previously Discussed Here], he did so quietly.

The Ron DeSantis reelection was all a big con job… all of it. Florida was duped, and I have had a lot of people begging me not to point it out and talk about it. Too bad. The Truth Has No Agenda here!

The not pretending reason for the exclusive DeSantis new law is to stop anyone from tracing the background of his travel, and the billionaire special interests and donors who funded it, as he launches his 2024 presidential campaign. As I have been saying since last summer, the DeSantis ’24 campaign was planned years ago – long before anyone else was paying attention.

Ron DeSantis ’24 is 100%, guaranteed to be an absolute construct of the billionaires, multinationals, and hedge fund managers who must stop Donald Trump and the America First platform. Look backward at the professional Republican outcomes in 2018, 2020 and 2022 to see the background of what this is all about.

If we stop playing this silly game of pretending, we will accept the billionaire donors who are funding the ‘STOP TRUMP’ operation are likely the same donors who are funding the ‘BOOK TOUR’; who are the same donors who funded the new branding and consulting group in 2022; who are the same donors funding the apparatus of the DeSantis stealth campaign. More succinctly, his control handlers.

The need for control is a reaction to fear.

The professional Republican apparatus in Florida needs to control what is visible about the construct of Ron DeSantis 2024. If you ask my opinion, I will tell you from all appearances this fear is connected to a reality that Ron DeSantis ’24 was planned long, long ago. Likely before the 2020 presidential election year.

As a result of decades of grassroots activist work in the state of Florida, much of it led by the patriotic Tea Party movement, the sunshine state has/had some of the most transparent public information laws in the country. Florida is/was well known for the ability of citizens and media to keep government officials in check through public records requests. I have personally used them and will attest to the sunlight process that was always available.

Ever since the people behind Governor Ron DeSantis began conducting a stealth presidential campaign based on fraud, deception, brand imagery and pretense, those same Florida Sunlight Laws are viewed as a risk. The arc of this DeSantis legacy, including the legislative changes he champions as good for the state, does not end in a good place.

If you follow the process to its natural conclusion, what’s predictable is a voter swing in the other direction. Then Democrats will have a lot of powerful tools they can weaponize against their opposition. Tools, currently created by DeSantis, will be used by a host of carpetbagging non and new-Floridians who are putting the state on a path for future misery.

Ron DeSantis is the counterfeit $100 bill on a fishing line that was dragged through the MAGAhood by the professional Republican politicians who need to stop the takeover of the party.

More to follow…. Keep watching.


That is a Florida resident FWIW.
Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 5/12/23 at 3:12 pm to
Why is he mad at Ron.

Why not the trumpers that passed it?

Oh, that’s right. The narrative.
Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 5/12/23 at 3:17 pm to
CTH



Sundance

Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
34286 posts
Posted on 5/12/23 at 4:08 pm to
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Visitor logs to the governor's mansion and his office also will be hidden.

This is the bullshite part

And the fact that its only a law until the 2028 Republican nomination is over with, then magically just disappears. Because after that of course, no one will "threaten" Florida politicians anymore

Or their GOPe visitors to the mansion


Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
Member since Feb 2009
157973 posts
Posted on 5/12/23 at 4:08 pm to
Why did the MAGA supporting legislators create this law?

Bad look on their part.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
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Posted on 5/12/23 at 4:36 pm to
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I didn't read that thread.



You didn't read the bill, either.
Posted by crewdepoo
Hogwarts
Member since Jan 2015
11024 posts
Posted on 5/12/23 at 4:43 pm to
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Businessinsider Motherjones didn't have an available link?
what does this mean? It’s either fact or not. Look it up for yourself m.
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
Higher Elevation
Member since Oct 2014
41773 posts
Posted on 5/12/23 at 4:43 pm to
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I'm just amazed at the response this thread received


People are fed up with your incessant whining about DeSantis. None of which is even rooted in reality.
Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
Member since Feb 2009
157973 posts
Posted on 5/12/23 at 4:51 pm to
Look. Gumbo Pot and commie group of shite on the same team.

Posted by crewdepoo
Hogwarts
Member since Jan 2015
11024 posts
Posted on 5/12/23 at 4:59 pm to
He’s learned from trump. Gotta hide those shady deals.
Posted by cyarrr
Prairieville
Member since Jun 2017
4240 posts
Posted on 5/12/23 at 5:01 pm to
quote:

Odd that they would make all those claims and not include the text of the bill


I thought the same, but it’s imbedded in underlined text of sentence that references bill.

LINK w/in
This post was edited on 5/12/23 at 5:14 pm
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 5/12/23 at 5:05 pm to
Lol
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 5/12/23 at 5:09 pm to
That thread just says he was poised to sign the law.

Then we heard nothing else about it.

Gumbo's thread (this one) says he signed the law in secret.

After trips it is announced. i e... when he traveled overseas. It was in the news he was there. No one is claiming he hid those type of things.

The OP post of this thread seems to correctly articulate, as Gumbo has already... That he is hiding retroactive travels as well as current.

Therefore, it is logical that the laws purpose is not to show donors/trips to island meetings, trips the GWBush's library that leaked out.

If he announces for President, this all goes away. It seems his running has been planned a lot longer than most realized.

How many alters have you had KCT The BugSDVTomBranson?
This post was edited on 5/12/23 at 5:33 pm
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