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re: Roe opponents, what do you really, really want?

Posted on 5/6/22 at 2:36 am to
Posted by Strannix
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Posted on 5/6/22 at 2:36 am to
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or do you want an Amendment


Don't need one, its a founding principle, life liberty and pursuit of happiness.
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
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Posted on 5/6/22 at 3:18 am to
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In other words, do you simply believe that it is a federalism issue, with each state to chart its own course? Or do you want to impose your views nationwide?



Lol take a guess
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
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Posted on 5/6/22 at 3:20 am to
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Don't need one, its a founding principle, life liberty and pursuit of happiness.



Except if you disagree with them, then it’s cool to use the gov to step in between the woman and her doctor.
Posted by td01241
Savannah
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Posted on 5/6/22 at 3:42 am to
Melt groomer
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
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31343 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 3:49 am to
Who am I grooming
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
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31343 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 4:26 am to
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*what you do in your life isn’t my business as long as I’m not financing it, which then becomes my business.



You’re gonna be financing it for at least 18 years and likely well past that.
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
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Posted on 5/6/22 at 4:35 am to
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What do I really, really want? I want abortion to be codified into law as the willful act of murdering an unborn child and thus a capital offense. The abortion doctor who performs the act will be charged with first degree murder in my perfect world while the mother would be charged as an accessory to murder.



At what stage, from conception onward? What’s your opinion on an ectopic pregnancy for instance? The egg was fertilized so aborting it should result in a murder charge?
Posted by Strannix
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52958 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 5:23 am to
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Except if you disagree with them, then it’s cool to use the gov to step in between the woman and her doctor.



Wut?
Posted by Strannix
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Member since Dec 2012
52958 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 5:24 am to
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what stage, from conception onward? What’s your opinion on an ectopic pregnancy for instance? The egg was fertilized so aborting it should result in a murder charge?



The lefts favorite strawman
Posted by theronswanson
House built with my hands
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Posted on 5/6/22 at 6:06 am to
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The lefts favorite strawman


When they discuss rape, incest, and health of the mother exception to an abortion ban ectopic pregnancy falls under health of the mother that most on this board oppose. It’s a legitimate discussion that needs to be had.
Posted by Larry_Hotdogs
Texas
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Posted on 5/6/22 at 6:25 am to
Aggiehank is the worst poster on this site, and it’s not even close.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 5/6/22 at 6:36 am to
Personally, I wish it would go away because I've never really been sold that so many oppose it on moral grounds. I think it is bad law, especially when you read the decision. It reads like peice of legislation from the majority. I also think the 14th Amendment can be so broad as to include what many call substantive due process which always struck me as a contradiction.

I get the Church's stand on it and I agree with it especially as Catholic/ Orthodox perspective. But the politicians in my mind and being especially in Southern jurisdictions always felt to me that it was the last place to conduct the Civil War.I always questioned the state legislatures earnestness about abortion. Abortion always and still does seem to be about scoring points politically on both sides.

Overturning Roe does nothing to stop that. Now it just gets kicked up to Congress to create a specific right. Because Democrats can't lose on this.
Posted by squid_hunt
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2021
11272 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 6:43 am to
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You’re gonna be financing it for at least 18 years and likely well past that

We can change that, too. This is the argument of an idiot, but there's not a bit of consistency in leftist logic, just a lot of hysterical screaming.
This post was edited on 5/6/22 at 6:46 am
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 5/6/22 at 6:44 am to
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We are The United States.

Each state should decide most of everything.
This country needs a healthy dose of this in so many areas.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
69880 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 7:12 am to
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What’s your opinion on an ectopic pregnancy for instance?


You mean a pregnancy that has absolutely no chance of succeeding and, if allowed to proceed, would most likely cause massive internal bleeding and death for the mother? In those cases, self-defense doctrine obviously would come into play as the mother's life is of equal value to the unborn child's.
Posted by Bulldogblitz
In my house
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 5/6/22 at 7:28 am to
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Go.


i believe that's what you were told last year, yet you came back.
Posted by theronswanson
House built with my hands
Member since Feb 2012
3205 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 8:03 am to
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You mean a pregnancy that has absolutely no chance of succeeding and, if allowed to proceed, would most likely cause massive internal bleeding and death for the mother? In those cases, self-defense doctrine obviously would come into play as the mother's life is of equal value to the unborn child's.


What about the doctor who performs the abortion? He would be guilty of homicide under the proposed Louisiana law.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
154794 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 8:24 am to
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When they discuss rape, incest, and health of the mother exception to an abortion ban ectopic pregnancy falls under health of the mother that most on this board oppose.


Why tell this lie?
Posted by crimsonuatide
Member since Jul 2017
2119 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 8:26 am to
That's why I clarified with serious risk further in my comment.

I know of a woman that refused chemo while pregnant to prevent risk to the baby. She later died from cancer. But that was a choice she made.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46246 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 8:28 am to
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abortion rights


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