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re: Rispone calls out JBE and Together BR on their stance against ITEP

Posted on 2/4/19 at 2:04 pm to
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
38053 posts
Posted on 2/4/19 at 2:04 pm to
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I get it. Relying on job creation, state income taxes, and a marginally higher sales tax to make up for shortfalls in taxing property owners is all we can do to keep up with Texas and other southern states to stay competitive.


well we could always try to live within our means. Quit making up budgetary numbers that are complete horseshite. Close a few colleges, or otherwise reduce the size of state government. You know, not spend money we don't have.
Posted by CBLSU316
Far Right of Left
Member since Jun 2008
11429 posts
Posted on 2/4/19 at 2:05 pm to
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ITEP is garbage corporate welfare.


Gravy, is that you?
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
70495 posts
Posted on 2/4/19 at 2:06 pm to
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We definitely need a tax overhaul no doubt about it.


Eddie's platform is two-pronged:
1. Constitutional Convention to overhaul our tax and government structure

2. k-12 and higher Education overhaul to more align curriculum with what employers are looking for, and develop private/public partnerships with employers, particularly in STEM fields.
Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
30763 posts
Posted on 2/4/19 at 2:07 pm to
Where is that fat broad who always makes sure to get camera time for TBR?
Posted by rowbear1922
Houston, TX
Member since Oct 2008
15791 posts
Posted on 2/4/19 at 2:07 pm to
I actually agree with you on TOPS. I have a another one for TOPS: it’s retroactive after the semester.

Sure, the very first semester you would have to front the money, but once you have completed the necessary requirements for TOPS, you are reimbursed (money could be used for next semester and so on). You have bad grades/not enough hours, you don’t get the money. You drop out of school, you owe the money back. It would save a lot by itself.
Posted by PoBoy1
Member since Mar 2014
504 posts
Posted on 2/4/19 at 2:07 pm to
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JBE has surprisingly done a decent job & is far less liberal than the D next to his name would insinuate.



He's a tax-and-spend liberal. You're foolish if you think otherwise.
Posted by rowbear1922
Houston, TX
Member since Oct 2008
15791 posts
Posted on 2/4/19 at 2:09 pm to
In order to reduce ITEP, Louisiana first would need to bring in some other job sector to rely less on industrial projects. Tax overhaul is good and all but if you make it less appealing for industry, they will leave and without some other form on industry to move in; Louisiana dies.
Posted by guttatiger
Houston
Member since Oct 2015
35 posts
Posted on 2/4/19 at 2:10 pm to
If your goal is to stay in Louisiana, Finance, Accounting, Chemical/Mechanical/Electrical Engineering, Law, Medicine are all good fields. If you're studying petroleum engineering you know if you want to stay in LA you're gonna be working offshore from south La or Texas.
Posted by guttatiger
Houston
Member since Oct 2015
35 posts
Posted on 2/4/19 at 2:12 pm to
Also, we definitely know eachother.... GI
Posted by Skillet
Member since Aug 2006
113839 posts
Posted on 2/4/19 at 2:12 pm to
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Perhaps it’s because ITEP helps line Mr. Eddie’s pockets


And Mr. Eddie employs a ton of people with his so-called lined pockets. Eddie has my vote.
Posted by rowbear1922
Houston, TX
Member since Oct 2008
15791 posts
Posted on 2/4/19 at 2:14 pm to
449. You?
Posted by skinny domino
sebr
Member since Feb 2007
14523 posts
Posted on 2/4/19 at 2:16 pm to
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LOL. You don't need to take away the tax break as a whole but 80% tax break on property taxes for 10 years is a bit much. Remember, there is only one Mississippi river.
this, not to mention the 4th largest refinery in the USA and 12ft worldwide - also, sitting on a superfund site if they try to sell/shutdown.
Posted by guttatiger
Houston
Member since Oct 2015
35 posts
Posted on 2/4/19 at 2:17 pm to
Shoot, don't remember, class right after you though.
Posted by guttatiger
Houston
Member since Oct 2015
35 posts
Posted on 2/4/19 at 2:19 pm to
Think 462.
Posted by rowbear1922
Houston, TX
Member since Oct 2008
15791 posts
Posted on 2/4/19 at 2:22 pm to
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Sitting on a superfund site


You are right on the sell/shutdown, but they will not invest more or do any more than the very minimum to keep from having to pay cleanup for the superfund site. Exxon already announced they withdrew other ITEPs, including the planned billion dollar expansion, since the school board declined others all while naming an expansion to it’s Beaumont facility.
Posted by rowbear1922
Houston, TX
Member since Oct 2008
15791 posts
Posted on 2/4/19 at 2:22 pm to
Gotcha. It’s not hard to figure out who i am for people that ever met me.
Posted by guttatiger
Houston
Member since Oct 2015
35 posts
Posted on 2/4/19 at 2:25 pm to
Yes, I know.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
70495 posts
Posted on 2/4/19 at 2:27 pm to
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You are right on the sell/shutdown, but they will not invest more or do any more than the very minimum to keep from having to pay cleanup for the superfund site


This. They could go from having 6,000 people on site to 60 without having to deal with the superfund issue, and it would be a massive blow to the region's economy. That's the kind of stuff that happened at dozens of plants around South Louisiana during the 70's and 80's.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
41062 posts
Posted on 2/4/19 at 2:32 pm to
quote:

Eddie knows what he’s talking about


Rispone is a big state government person? Interesting. That hurts him in my eyes. I may not have any better options than him when it comes time to vote, but he is wrong on this issue.

JBE did the right thing by putting the decisions about how to collect LOCAL taxes into LOCAL hands. JBE's decision to do that is not the same as TBR's stance on ITEP. TBR's stance is that locals should shoot them down. JBE's stance is that locals should have the choice.

This is a complicated topic. It's a shame that many people in our state are too dumb to understand it. All them know is R=Good and D=Bad.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
41062 posts
Posted on 2/4/19 at 2:34 pm to
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If the government takes less of someone’s money, please explain how they are lining the pockets of any business owner?


If the government didn't pick winners and losers, that argument might hold water.
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