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Posted on 8/21/21 at 9:24 pm to
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
41183 posts
Posted on 8/21/21 at 9:24 pm to
quote:

My brother got covid and was prescribed Ivermectin and got better in two days.


Ivermectin taken under close doc orders is not the same as going to tractor supply and self-dosing
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
32785 posts
Posted on 8/21/21 at 10:28 pm to
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Hate to hear that. Wasn’t he an anti-vaxxer?


I would say he was more vax hesitant.
Posted by Craig86
Florida
Member since Oct 2012
2090 posts
Posted on 8/21/21 at 10:28 pm to
Phil took ivermectin and the infusion, it didn’t work for him.
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
32785 posts
Posted on 8/21/21 at 10:31 pm to
I don’t know the full story, but I would guess those drugs were administered too late.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
123249 posts
Posted on 8/21/21 at 10:32 pm to
quote:

Doctor friend


Lol
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
19644 posts
Posted on 8/21/21 at 10:34 pm to
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The ventilator is a death sentence.


My understanding is that with Covid, a vent gives about a 50% chance of survival.

So, yeah, if you get Covid and the doc comes in and says "vent time" you know your chances of survival are about a coin-flip. That would be pretty unnerving to deal with.
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
32785 posts
Posted on 8/21/21 at 10:35 pm to
quote:

That would be pretty unnerving to deal with.


IMO, I would rather get the vaccine than potentially be given the vent talk.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128866 posts
Posted on 8/21/21 at 10:36 pm to
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My understanding is that with Covid, a vent gives about a 50% chance of survival.


I think that’s closer to accurate for non-Covid patients. Vent survival for Covid patients is not anywhere near 50%. Probably not near 25%.
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
19644 posts
Posted on 8/21/21 at 10:46 pm to
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I think that’s closer to accurate for non-Covid patients. Vent survival for Covid patients is not anywhere near 50%. Probably not near 25%.


Depends on the study. There was one meta-analysis that looked at 69 studies. When they looked at ALL ages combined, they concluded that a vent gives you a 55% survival chance. So slightly better than a coin-flip.

However, it varies by age. Only 15% of people over 80 survived the vent.

PubMed
Posted by League Champs
Bayou Self
Member since Oct 2012
10340 posts
Posted on 8/21/21 at 11:00 pm to
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Hilarious a man died eating horse paste. Glad you’re enjoying it.

Don't take the word of us quacks that post on here. Go watch Joe Rogan's podcast with with former SNL cast member Breuer. They aren't typical PoliBoard intellects.

He is ANGRY with the way health professionals treated him and other CoVID patients he knows. Bone chilling examples he gives. He eventually was forced to take Ivermectin on his own.

LINK
Posted by deathvalleytiger10
Member since Sep 2009
9284 posts
Posted on 8/22/21 at 12:05 am to
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He could have overcome COVID with two shots and if that failed, an antibody infusion.

Misinformation like your post is why he’s dead.



This entire post is misinformation. And you are an MD?

There are very few absolutes in medicine. Maybe with different treatment he lives. Maybe not.

Maybe with the vaccine he lives. Maybe not.

Your are arrogant and irresponsible as a MD, if you are which I highly doubt, for making a definitive statement of the care of a patient for which you are not involved.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
55908 posts
Posted on 8/22/21 at 12:06 am to
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This entire post is misinformation. And you are an MD?

There are very few absolutes in medicine. Maybe with different treatment he lives. Maybe not.

Maybe with the vaccine he lives. Maybe not.

Your are arrogant and irresponsible as a MD, if you are which I highly doubt, for making a definitive statement of the care of a patient for which you are not involved.


Tiguar is fully invested.
Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
13364 posts
Posted on 8/22/21 at 1:01 am to
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When you put someone on a vent "out of an abundance of caution" that is the wrong reason IMO.

When I originally read the story I thought...I have never put someone on a vent out of an abundance of caution.
Posted by mouton
Savannah,Ga
Member since Aug 2006
28276 posts
Posted on 8/22/21 at 8:19 am to
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Don't take the word of us quacks that post on here. Go watch Joe Rogan's podcast with with former SNL cast member Breuer. They aren't typical PoliBoard intellects


Jesus Christ. I thought this was a joke until I saw who posted it. So now we should listen to comedians instead of medical doctors. Unreal.
Posted by Lickitty Split
Inside
Member since Apr 2017
4161 posts
Posted on 8/22/21 at 8:38 am to
If you think doctors are infallible then you’re the fool. Doctor error is the third leading cause of death.
Posted by Ag Zwin
Member since Mar 2016
26357 posts
Posted on 8/22/21 at 8:40 am to
Texas account promoting Shiner.

I’m not sure what to do here.
Posted by mouton
Savannah,Ga
Member since Aug 2006
28276 posts
Posted on 8/22/21 at 8:44 am to
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If you think doctors are infallible then you’re the fool


So if you take medical advice from comedians over doctors what does that make you?
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 8/22/21 at 8:44 am to
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Are you a doctor Tiguar?? My brother got covid and was prescribed Ivermectin and got better in two days. Amazing how you seem to know more than doctors


Do you understand that millions of people have gotten covid and are better in 2 days wether they took ivermectin or not?

It’s generally a mild disease for most.
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
46809 posts
Posted on 8/22/21 at 8:46 am to
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He would have had a much better chance of overcoming COVID with two shots and if that failed, an antibody infusion.

Misinformation like your post is why he’s dead.



Made a little adjustment to your quote, but otherwise agree. Gumbo and jdoc can’t wait to take out some more people with misinformation.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
29248 posts
Posted on 8/22/21 at 8:50 am to
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Maybe with the vaccine he lives. Maybe not.


Anyone with two fricking brain cells to rub together knows Valentine's odds with the vaccine would have been a helluva lot better than your dumbass "maybe, maybe not."

Clearly the only thing that will convince some of you sheep is for members of your own family to die. That's what convinced Phil's family.
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