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re: Rick Scott announces Constitutional amendment to raise threshold for impeachment

Posted on 2/7/20 at 6:51 am to
Posted by Boatshoes
Member since Dec 2017
6775 posts
Posted on 2/7/20 at 6:51 am to
No more constitutional amendments until we...

1. Start using the one we have.
2. Figure out which public bathroom we're supposed to take a piss in.
Posted by deathvalleytiger10
Member since Sep 2009
7609 posts
Posted on 2/7/20 at 6:52 am to
Yeah, Pelosi, Schiff, Nadler and Schumer are leading the charge.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
30246 posts
Posted on 2/7/20 at 6:55 am to
Mornin' Hankster. So this isn't necessarily "grandstanding"....it's merely "starting a conversation". Albeit an ostentatious conversation, perhaps.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
23269 posts
Posted on 2/7/20 at 6:59 am to
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Any proposed Constitutional Amendment which lacks bipartisan support and which is unlikely to ever pass ... is pure grandstanding.

This proposal is pure grandstanding.


Both parties have been subject to what they feel are partisan (one correct one incorrect) impeachment’s in the last 4 presidencies, perhaps there is some interest if the democrats can see beyond the end of their nose
Posted by TigerMyth36
River Ridge
Member since Nov 2005
39736 posts
Posted on 2/7/20 at 7:17 am to
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That should deter partisan impeachments
You do realize shiff is already talking about bringing new articles after having Bolton testify.
Posted by viceman
Huntsville, AL
Member since Aug 2016
30688 posts
Posted on 2/7/20 at 8:01 am to
quote:

Any proposed Constitutional Amendment which lacks bipartisan support and which is unlikely to ever pass ... is pure grandstanding.

This proposal is pure grandstanding.


This is true.
Posted by 9th life
birmingham
Member since Sep 2009
7310 posts
Posted on 2/7/20 at 8:10 am to
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You do realize shiff is already talking about bringing new articles after having Bolton testify.


Was that not the complaint of the president's counsel? That they wasted everyone's time with a less-than-thorough work product?

Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43386 posts
Posted on 2/7/20 at 8:21 am to
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Was that not the complaint of the president's counsel? That they wasted everyone's time with a less-than-thorough work product?



And that should have been addressed in the previous impeachment inquiry. But it wasn't.

Posted by viceman
Huntsville, AL
Member since Aug 2016
30688 posts
Posted on 2/7/20 at 8:24 am to
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Was that not the complaint of the president's counsel? That they wasted everyone's time with a less-than-thorough work product?



No, that was the complaint of the republican Senators, who didn't want to tie the Senate down for months doing the House's job for them. The President's council argued that even it the rumors about Bolton's testimony are true, it is still not an impeachable offense.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52904 posts
Posted on 2/7/20 at 8:26 am to
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The grandstanders are coming out of the woodwork.



So you're ok with impeachment requirements being merely who controls the house at the time?
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26620 posts
Posted on 2/7/20 at 8:28 am to
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So you're ok with impeachment requirements being merely who controls the house at the time?


That’s what they have always been. All three impeachments have been bullshite, and the Senate has ended all three, as intended.
Posted by latigerfan2
covington, la
Member since Jan 2005
1839 posts
Posted on 2/7/20 at 8:29 am to
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The system worked, the accused was acquitted and became stronger because of it. That should deter partisan impeachments in the future. My point being is that 3 times in US history now it has made the President stronger. It always backfires. Let them try it again. No sense cutting Wile E.Coyote's credit line with Acme.


While I agree that it helped Trump in this instance, it's a gross abuse of power and a tremendous waste of taxpayer funds and resources. There's no telling how many millions of dollars that this and the Muller hoax have wasted. They are supposed to be there to do the business of the people, not to use the power of the government as their own vendetta hit squad.
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
120383 posts
Posted on 2/7/20 at 8:30 am to
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The system worked, the accused was acquitted and became stronger because of it. That should deter partisan impeachments in the future.


The dems are already trying to do it again
Posted by WhiskeyThrottle
Weatherford Tx
Member since Nov 2017
5341 posts
Posted on 2/7/20 at 8:30 am to
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Scott's amendment would require a super-majority of three-fifths of the House of Representatives in order to approve articles of impeachment, instead of the current standard which is a simple majority.


An impeachment, being the solemn duty it is, should require more than just a simple majority. A president shouldn't be impeached on something so minor. The QPQ was a flimsy accusation. Of all the things the libs hitched their horse to, I'm actually surprised they landed on this one.
Posted by 9th life
birmingham
Member since Sep 2009
7310 posts
Posted on 2/7/20 at 8:38 am to
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And that should have been addressed in the previous impeachment inquiry. But it wasn't.


you appear to be stating a fact.

NOt that I necessarily support it, but is there some codified reason why they can't subpoena Bolton now? I mean, there will be twitter and political consequences if they pursue it, but is there something preventing it?
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124169 posts
Posted on 2/7/20 at 8:49 am to
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Any proposed Constitutional Amendment which lacks bipartisan support


Why would this proposal lack bipartisan support?
Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
29238 posts
Posted on 2/7/20 at 8:51 am to
I like the idea, but it should be 2/3rds.

This also would've stopped the Clinton impeachment as well.
Posted by Hurricane Mike
Member since Jun 2008
20059 posts
Posted on 2/7/20 at 8:51 am to
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I'd rather put other items up such as line item veto, audit the Fed, forensic accounting on foreign aid, defund Planned Parenthood and any other organizations that get tax dollars & donate to D.C. politicians.


Democrats aren't passing any of that either. SCUM
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124169 posts
Posted on 2/7/20 at 8:52 am to
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but is there something preventing it?
There is nothing impeding the effort.
Executive Privilege may impede the effort's success.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43386 posts
Posted on 2/7/20 at 8:54 am to
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but is there something preventing it?




Not being hypocritical partisan hacks who ignore House and Constitutional rules? But then again it's proggies we're talking about so never mind. That's kind of their thing.

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